In this episode of State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Desk Pop for an unfiltered conversation about gun culture, navigating restrictive states, and why the firearms community is seeing a cultural shift toward fun, welcoming, and engaging content.

From working behind the gun counter to launching a thriving YouTube channel, to being directly contacted by the ATF and pushed to get an FFL just to keep creating. He shares the challenges of living and advocating for 2A rights in Washington, how companies are responding to new restrictions, and why the next generation is key to protecting our freedoms.

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