Big Dave, Richie, Gary and Adam discuss yet another Varce, this time against Aston Villa. When is a handball not a handball? (Spoiler alert: when it comes at the detriment of West Ham). Will David Moyes ever be able to make a positive substitution again? Then in part 2 a happy, nostalgic look over the Freiburg game and what lays ahead in Leverkusen.