Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs close out 2024 Hang Up and Listen-style. They dig into the War for Christmas being waged between the NFL and NBA. Then they look at Alex Ovechkin’s attempts to break Wayne Gretzky’s 894 goals record. Next they discuss the rise of the alt-cast and what that means for broadcasting games. 

On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the hosts share the underrated sports stories of 2024 as well as what everyone should be watching in 2025. 

War for Christmas(2:45): Who gets claim to the day: the NFL or the NBA?

Alex Ovechkin (21:33): Can he beat the hockey GOAT’s goals record? It suddenly looks like a matter of time, but the story isn’t breaking into mainstream coverage much.

Alternative Broadcasts (38:37): Do we really want a Toy Story football overlay?

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs talk about the death of a legend: Rickey Henderson. Then, they dig into the end of the NCAA women’s volleyball tournament and the sport’s growth. The panel also discusses the shenanigans taking place as Tampa Bay-area authorities consider building a new ballpark.

Finally, Alex delivers an Afterball on the first round of the College Football Playoff and explains why most games suck, actually. 

On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the hosts talk about the latest in a string of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce inspired schlocky movies.

Rickey Henderson (2:17): A baseball legend dies at 65.

Volleyball (21:28): The NCAA tournament comes to a close.

Tampa Bay ballpark schemes (39:12): Should the team get public bonds to pay for a new stadium?

Afterballs (53:12): Alex on why everyone hates the College Football Playoff this year

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs talk about Bill Belichick and how one of the winningest NFL coaches of all time transitions to college football as UNC’s head coach. The panel also discusses the NBA Cup and the recent Bills-Lions slugfest. Finally Ben delivers an Afterball on Catfish Hunter and the history of deferred salary payments across sports. On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the hosts talk about this year’s Heisman Trophy winner Travis Hunter, and the future of two-way stars.

Belichick (2:35): The Hoody is heading the Tar Heels

NBA Cup (22:31): Did anyone care about this midseason tournament?

Bills Vs. Lions (41:23): Was this past weekend’s matchup a Super Bowl preview?

Afterballs (54:10): Ben on the history of deferred payments across sports.

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs discuss Juan Soto’s earth-shatteringly large contract with the New York Mets. They also talk about Lewis Hamilton’s last ride for Mercedes before he moves to team Ferrari, and Igor Shesterkin’s unprecedented new deal with the New York Rangers. For Afterballs, Alex breaks down some of the controversy within college football’s first 12-team playoff. On the bonus episode, available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the hosts discuss expansion teams and how different leagues such as the WNBA and NHL have handled new additions.

Soto (2:51): His shocking shuffle over the Queens.

F1 (23:18): Lewis Hamilton rolls on from Mercedes.

NHL goalies (40:51): Igor Shesterkin sets a new contract record.

Afterballs (55:37): Alex on college football's new twelve-team playoffs.

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs discuss Iga Swiatek’s and Janik Sinner's doping allegations and the huge implications for international tennis. They also get into this past weekend’s college football chaos and Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry’s running back revival. For Afterballs, Lindsay Gibbs examines the tragic passing of Alabama A&M linebacker Medrick Burnett Jr. after a recent head injury. On the bonus episode, available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the hosts talk about Bluesky and whether big sports media will eventually pivot to the new platform.

Tennis and doping (2:37): Do Swiatek and Sinner deserve suspensions?

College football chaos (25:50): Flag planting and the mess in the Mid-West

Are runningbacks back? (46:57): How long can Barkely and Henry prop up their position?

Afterballs (1:03:38): Lindsay on Medrick Burnett Jr’s head injury and death.

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh chat about Rafael Nadal’s legacy as one of the all-time tennis greats. They also discuss the NWSL championship which Lindsay attended, the last days of ESPN’s Around the Horn. This week’s Afterball is from Ben, in which he compares the terms of sports commissioners and Supreme Court justices. On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus subscribers, the panel breaks down the new women’s basketball league, Unrivaled.

Nadal (3:02): His long and impressive career.

NWSL Championship (24:01): Orlando won it all.

Sports TV (46:09): Around the Horn ends while Inside the NBA remains.

Afterballs (01:01:09): Ben Lindbergh on baseball commissioners vs. Supreme Court justices.

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs discuss the 4-hour Jake Paul and Mike Tyson boxing circus. They also talk about changes in regional sports networks, the next chapter in the Chiefs-Bills rivalry, plus an Afterball from Alex on the Winnipeg Jets. On the Bonus episode, available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the panel gets into the NBA’s continued love of three-pointers.

Paul vs. Tyson (2:54): How the main event duped so many viewers.

FanDuel takes on RSNs (25:18): How sixteen regional sports networks continue to be reshuffled.

Chiefs vs. Bills (43:35): CBS and the NFL want this rivalry to stick.

Afterballs (56:57): Alex Kirshner on the NHL’s Winnipeg Jets and their attendance issues.

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, and Ben Lindbergh are joined by Matt Brown of Extra Points for a discussion of how unified Republican control of the government could allow the NCAA to roll back college athletes’ newly won empowerment. They also talk about the NFL’s international aspirations, possible MLB off-season moves, plus a baseball-crosswords Afterballs. On the Bonus episode, available exclusively for Slate Plus members, Ben and Alex chat about MLS and Lionel Messi’s first playoffs.

Trump and the NCAA (2:49): How college sports may welcome more conservative legislation.

The NFL Abroad (27:33): How much does the rest of the world really love Football?

The Juan Soto Sweepstakes (46:49): Where will the generational hitter land?

Afterballs (1:08:03): Ben Lindbergh on the prevalence of baseball in crosswords.

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh talk about the dominant Dodgers, why NCAA coaches are hiring lobbyists, election gambling, and the return of Afterballs! On the Bonus episode exclusively for Slate Plus members, the hosts get into esports, and gaming star FAKER's fifth League of Legends World Championship.

World Series (4:47): The Dodgers were good. The Yankees were bad.

Olympic Sports (19:23): a group of collegiate Olympic sports coaching associations hired lobbying firm FGS Global.

Election Betting (35:58): The potential ramifications of sportsbooks hosting presidential election bets.

Afterballs (48:29): Lindsay Gibbs on WTA Finals and Saudi Arabia

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh examine the notable silence from major sports stars on this year’s presidential election. They also discuss Michael Jordan's legal battle against NASCAR, plus the first week of the NBA regular season. In the Bonus episode exclusively for Slate Plus subscribers, the panel reflects on the life and legacy of Fernando Valenzuela and his impact on the Dodgers.

A lack of political endorsements (2:48): LeBron remains quiet with one week remaining until the election.

MJ vs. NASCAR (21:35): The implications of Michael Jordan’s legal case against Big Race Car.

NBA (36:01): Bronny’s first few minutes.

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