Welcome to the 2019 NEXT Conference Series. Recorded live in Chicago, this series is bringing interviews straight to you from exhibitors and speakers at this year’s event. In this interview, host Jamin Brazil interviews Simon Chadwick, managing partner of Cambiar LLC.
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I have Simon Chadwick, the legend, here live at the NEXT Conference here in Chicago. Simon, how are you?
I’m good, thanks, Jamin. How are you doing?
I’m doing OK. Thank you for asking. The weather has been a little bit cold, but not too bad. A little rainy, oddly enough for Chicago this time of year. But what are you going to do? We’re in a conference anyway so...
Not snowing, not freezing. Totally wins, yeah, totally wins. Actually, it might even be warm for Chicago standards. I don’t know.
I don’t know. All I think is that when it rains in Chicago, it’s just because the temperature is turning the snow into liquid.
Exactly! Totally true. It’s a very cold city.
I do, too. It’s actually my favorite city globally, but it would be hard for me to move here just because of the winters. But I absolutely love Chicago. The people are super nice. It feels like a New York, you know like a Manhattan, London-ish type.
And great architecture and, you know, the rivers, and... yeah, tremendous, yeah.
It is great. So, what do you think about the conference so far?
Well, from what I’ve seen so far, not bad at all. I’m really looking forward to my colleague Lucy’s paper later this afternoon, which is “Who Killed Advertising Effectiveness?” Murder at the manor. It’s a detective story, interactive.
Of course, Lucy would bring just riveting bend to that subject.
Yeah, she’s a great speaker. So I’m looking forward to that. Looking forward to the comedy show tonight. Are you going?
That’s going to be great.
Unfortunately, I don’t know about you, but every time I come to a conference, conference calls with China or with India crop up, and you’re in your room, you know, yeah.
Totally. It’s ridiculous; it’s absolutely asinine, very frustrating, actually. That just happened to me today, actually. And I missed an important person I was trying to connect with. Anyway, that’s disappointing when that happens. So, the show’s actually really good. I’ve enjoyed... I’ve been able to attend three sessions or speakers, whatever. They were super informative. I’ve been impressed with the quality of the content.
Yeah, I was at the storytelling one, and I thought that she did a good job: actually, made it easier for people to understand what they had to do in preparation and how to actually keep this story alive after the presentation. It was very pragmatic and practical.
Yeah, I love the tactical application. I’m a sucker for, if you put up a blog post and say, “Three Tips to...”, then I’m like, “OK,” because I'm going to read it. I like the... I can pull something out of this and apply it today to my life and have an impact.
You know, we as humans are so funny whenever we see numbers. Talking about Lucy, again, she did a big experiment at Coca-Cola Western Europe, which she presented at ESOMAR, looking at how you can disseminate insights to people who actually were not the stakeholders. So, if you’re Coke sodas and you find something, how can you get to cross to the juices or waters because it might actually be really relevant to them. So they conducted a big experiment.