The key is having a grandmother who loves you too much. Just ask John!
In this very first episode ever of Harping with Howie: a Peer Support Podcast, hosts Anna Butler and John O'Donnell talk about what led them to the Peer Support Training program at the Howie the Harp Advocacy Center in New York City.
Along the way, they share tidbits of their story, like when Anna was accused of stealing $25,000 from a bank or when John was in cahoots with Bono.
Above all, John and Anna offer candid reflections about some of the most difficult parts of their mental health journeys and what truly helped. The only drug we're dealing here folks is Hope, not dope. Buckle in as we begin our curiosity adventure into the depths of the human mind and heart.
Cover Art by Pepper Auerbach. On Instagram @iwasateenagepepper
Content note: this episode discusses childhood trauma, sexual assault, eating disorders, alcoholism, suicidal ideation, and psychiatric hospitalization.