The first hundred days of a president, prime minister, even a pope make lots of headlines. Leo XIV may have less dramatic flair than his predecessor, but he’s used his first three months in office to differentiate himself from Francis, particularly on the question of the Ukraine war. 

GUEST: 

• CLAIRE GIANGRAVE is Vatican correspondent for the Religion News Service.

If the first hundred days of a papacy can shake up the Catholic church, how much drama occurs over 80 years? History rolls on, one war ends, another begins, scandals aplenty unfold. But for author Philip Shenon, there has been a constant tension – how much should the church express judgement of the modern world and how much mercy should it extend. Philip’s the author of a sweeping new history of the church since World War II. It’s called Jesus Wept. It chronicles the triumphs, controversies, and political significance of the seven papacies before Leo. This is part 1 of the 2-part discussion.

GUEST:

• PHILIP SHENON - investigative reporter and author of Jesus Wept: Seven Popes and the Battle for the Soul of the Catholic Church