Gloria Haag and her son, Josey, join Kate and they talk about going to FDR skatepark, wizard cats, and what happens when Kate makes you laugh too hard. They also get into parenting, the importance of art, and how everyone truly wants to be free. Even if it's the freedom to stalk your friends at home when they say they're busy.

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