Adam and Ben are joined by Lias Saoudi, the lead singer of the most exciting rock n' roll band still in existence (that is less than 30 years old), The Fat White Family. While rock n' roll has hit its dinosaur phase, with bands seeming to opt into the binary choice of abject commercialist conformism or subterranean underground nigh nonexistence, The Fat Whites are a stark reminder of the rebellious, confrontational, and provocative soul of rock music. Lias, a brilliant writer and unhinged performer, is in the lineage of naughty rock n' roll wordsmiths: Lou Reed, Mark E. Smith, Nick Cave. Yes, he's that fucking good. Adam first saw the Fat Whites play in 2014 after getting excited hearing the group's debut album 'Champagne Holocaust.' Crouched in at the Bowery Ballroom, he stood at the front of the crowd and watched the band perform an extended intro of its psychedelic punk anthem "Auto Neutron" that upon entering into its first verse exploded in libidinal catharsis. Lias, shrieking the lyrics and screaming with reckless abandon, had his cock out half way into that first song. With this, Adam was sure that he felt what people must have felt when seeing Nick Cave and the Birthday Party in the early days, or what people must have felt watching Suicide in the '70s: shocked, appalled, and thrilled. Joyous and based. Viva rock n' roll.  

Adam has corresponded with Lias in the past. He interviewed him for Autre Magazine upon the FWF's second album 'Songs to our Mothers,' and once photographed in Brooklyn at a show for Lias' other band, The Moonlandingz, which got shelved (unfortunately). We got in touch with Lias to praise his pandemic conceptualized column for The Social that eviscerated shitty, woketard post-punk band Idles for their fake working class affectations and their American NGO created "activism," to talk about the transitions in his politics, the nature of rock n' roll, writing, art, all our hits basically. Enjoy!  

Links:   Lias on Idles: https://www.thesocial.com/life-beyond-the-neutral-zone-8-lias-saoudi/   

Lias on Schopenhauer: https://www.thesocial.com/life-beyond-the-neutral-zone-lias-saoudi/   

Lias on art criticism and Dylan's new record: https://www.thesocial.com/life-beyond-the-neutral-zone-11-lias-saoudi/ 

Adam interviews Lias in 2016 (when we were so hopeful about this Bernie/Corbyn thing): https://autre.love/interviewsmain/tag/fat+white+family 

Lias' cultural touchstones: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/mar/18/on-my-radar-lias-saoudi-musician-interview-bock 

Lias interview in Vogue: https://www.vogue.com/article/fat-white-family-band-interview-lias-saoudi