This week, Busy and Caissie attempt to discuss papal history to the best of their ability. They are holding out hope for a good Pope. They’re also discussing the benefits of not drinking as much, loving weddings while thinking the institution of marriage is bullshit, how second children sometimes fall through the cracks on teachable moments, who Caissie has been in talks with about possibly coming on the pod, how much both women love any type of before and after reveal, and how Trading Spaces was the best show on television, including the villain arc of designer Hildi Santo-Tomas when she famously glued hay to the walls of an unsuspecting homeowner/victim.

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