What does it actually take to evolve from shouldering every decision, every stress, every late-night task alone to genuinely enjoying your practice again? This isn't about productivity hacks or delegation tactics - this is about rediscovering the joy that brought you into this work in the first place, and learning how to build something beautiful with other people.

Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa dive deep into the transformation that happens when you stop trying to be everything to everyone and start creating space for others to step into their brilliance alongside you. From recognizing the lies we tell ourselves about being indispensable, to the profound relief of sharing both the load and the victories with associate doctors and high-level team members, to watching your people grow beyond what they thought possible - this conversation explores what it really means to build something sustainable and joyful. They examine how releasing the death grip on control doesn't make you less of a leader; it makes you the kind of leader people want to follow and grow with.

🔥 In This Episode:

• The moment you realize you never want to practice alone again and what that shift actually feels like
• How to navigate the vulnerability of being truly seen and supported by your team
• Why some entrepreneurs stay trapped in solo stress patterns and how to break free
• The specific identity work required before sustainable collaboration becomes possible
• Creating systems where individual growth and collective vision amplify each other

This conversation challenges the narrative that successful entrepreneurs must sacrifice joy and connection for growth. Instead, Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa show how building with high-level team members creates a multiplier effect where everyone's growth amplifies the impact you can make together.

BONUS: We're announcing our first-ever Team and Leadership Workshop Weekend in Knoxville this September! This intensive will focus on heart-centered leadership development and creating cultures where both you and your team can thrive. Stay tuned for details.

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What happens when you're having your best month in two years and then one slow day sends you spiraling into "what if I have to fire everyone and change everything"? When the very success you've worked so hard to build becomes the thing that triggers your deepest fears about worthiness, sustainability, and whether you're chasing the right things?

Dr. Sara gets vulnerable about her recent fear spiral - from celebrating record profits to panicking about summer volume drops in the span of a week. But here's what's beautiful: this isn't a story about failure or weakness. This is about what happens when you've done enough inner work that a trigger that used to derail you for days now gets processed in 10 minutes. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa dive into the three powerful questions their coach Pablo asked that cut straight to the heart of what was really happening: Are you chasing an idol? Are you flowing in your lane or someone else's? Are you being distracted from your main thing?

🔥 In This Episode:

• How success can become an idol that keeps you trapped in performance cycles
• The difference between your potential and your limits (and why crossing that line takes you away from your calling)
• Why volume-based metrics can trick you into thinking impact only comes from seeing more people
• How to recognize when seasonal business fluctuations trigger deeper identity fears
• The evolution from needing days to process triggers to handling them in minutes

This conversation challenges every entrepreneur who's ever felt like they're one bad day away from losing everything they've built. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa show how the triggers that feel like setbacks are actually invitations to go deeper, get clearer on your vision, and stop sacrificing your life to chase someone else's definition of success.

Resources Mentioned:

• "Train Analogy" episode
• "Hell Yes or Hell No" episode
• Free Self Love Challenge PDF

BONUS: We're announcing our first-ever Team and Leadership Workshop Weekend in Knoxville this September! This intensive will focus on heart-centered leadership development and creating cultures where both you and your team can thrive. Stay tuned for details.

Connect with us: Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast Email: [email protected]

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What do you do when that voice inside gets so loud you can't ignore it anymore? When your body literally feels like it's on fire until you take action? For Dr. Stephanie Wigner, that divine whisper turned into a roar that led her to build three seven figure businesses in five years while raising a family, drinking Mountain Valley Spring water, and renting red Ferraris without apology.

This isn't your typical "hustle harder" success story. This is about a woman who grew up navigating parents with addiction, never quite fitting in with her outdoorsy family because she didn't like getting dirty, and channeling that outsider energy into something extraordinary. Stephanie went from working for someone else for 10 months (until her body screamed "NOPE") to building an empire that includes five chiropractic offices and The Wealthy Practitioner coaching company that's turning the entire industry upside down.

🔥 In This Episode:

• Why that divine voice gets louder until you finally listen and how to trust it completely
• How to scale from 12 hours of back to back coaching calls to systems that work without you
• Why she fired a seven figure client who wouldn't do the work (and how that changed everything)
• Navigating the fear of success when you're already visible and about to get MORE visible
• The real conversation about money, judgment, and why people get triggered by your success
• How she and Kyle navigate building empires while protecting their marriage and energy
• Her vision for speaking on Tony Robbins level stages and why she's creating her own instead

Stop apologizing for wanting more. This episode is pure permission to dream so big it scares you, to trust that voice that's been whispering (or screaming), and to build something that makes massive impact without sacrificing the people you're building it for. Stephanie proves that when you do the work, listen to your intuition, and refuse to dim your light, the universe conspires to make space for your expansion.

Connect with Stephanie:

• Instagram: @drstephaniewigner
• Business Instagram: @wealthypractitioners
• Website: www.stephaniewigner.com
• Podcast: The Wealthy Practitioner

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• Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast
• Email: [email protected]

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What happens when you find yourself sitting on a couch with a gun in your hand, contemplating ending it all because of a toxic relationship? For multimillion-dollar real estate agent Lauren House, it was her cat Bentley and a fierce refusal to let someone else "win" that sparked one of the most raw transformation stories we've ever heard.

This episode gets real about the messiness of rebuilding yourself after surviving a narcissistic, psychopathic relationship that stripped away your identity. Lauren doesn't sugarcoat anything. From the black heart numbness that follows trauma to setting boundaries as an attractive woman in business who refuses to work with men who "just want to bang me," this conversation is for anyone who's ever lost themselves and had to claw their way back to wholeness.

🔥 In This Episode:

• Why she stayed in a toxic relationship for two and a half years and the "God moment" that broke the spell
• Her "black heart theory" and navigating emotional numbness while still showing up for life
• How healing isn't linear and you can't predict what will trigger you until you're back in the situation
• Building a multimillion-dollar real estate empire while doing deep inner work
• Expanding from Scottsdale to Miami and why romanticizing dreams doesn't match reality
• The reality of attracting mini versions of toxic partners until you do your own healing work

Stop choosing between healing and building your empire. This episode proves that when you refuse to let someone else define your worth, when you do the brutal work of looking in the mirror and transforming from the inside out, you can build something extraordinary from the ashes of who you used to be.

Connect with Lauren:

• Personal Instagram: @laurenmhouse
• Business Instagram: @realbrokerage
• Email: [email protected]
• Website: https://laurenmhouse.com/
• Book: "Entrepreneurial Insight: 102 Quotes to Shape Your Path with Perspective" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CV4QQ99W

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• Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast
• Email: [email protected]
• Join our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group
• Download our Free Self-Love Guide

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What happens when the chiropractor who built one of Utah's leading family wellness practices realizes she's been sacrificing everything to prove her worth? Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa sit down with Dr. Kristina Kill (formerly Stitcher) for the most raw conversation yet about the brutal cost of having no boundaries, the health crises that forced her to face hard truths, and why sometimes loving your profession means learning to say no.

This episode isn't just about chiropractic, it's about the courage to rebuild your entire approach to success when you realize you've been running on fumes and calling it passion. From spinal fusion surgery to divorce, from cancer to finding her voice again, Dr. Kristina proves that your deepest challenges aren't derailing your purpose, they're refining it.

🔥 In This Episode:

• The moment Dr. Kristina realized "getting adjusted" wasn't enough when she was pushing herself beyond physical limits
• How weight struggles, spinal surgery, and health crises became her greatest teachers about authentic service
• "Care but don't carry" — the boundary that will revolutionize how you serve patients
• The power of saying "we're not a good fit" with love and watching the universe deliver the right patients
• Why the profession's "prove yourself" mentality is killing practitioners and how to break free through authentic boundaries

After 21 years, a spinal fusion, cancer, divorce, and complete practice transformation, Dr. Kristina has MORE fire in her belly now than when she started. Because real success isn't about proving you can handle everything. It's about knowing what deserves your energy and what doesn't.

Connect with Dr. Kristina Kill:

• Website: PracticeEvolution.com
• Email: [email protected]
• Instagram: @kristinakill
• Podcast: Chiropractic Evolution
• Practice: Family First Chiropractic & Wellness Center 

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Sometimes the best moments in business happen when everything goes hilariously, beautifully off-script. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa dive into the wild, wonderful, and wonderfully weird world of running a family chiropractic practice where six-year-olds lick ankles, grandmothers flash the lobby, and toddlers want cowboy boots "just like Dr. M's."

This episode is pure joy wrapped in honest conversation about what it really means to create a culture where humans can be fully, authentically human. From navigating wardrobe malfunctions during scans to being someone's inspiration for bangs (yes, really), these stories remind us that the magic happens in the unscripted moments.

🔥 What You'll Hear:

Why a little girl pretending to be a dog taught them everything about meeting people where they are

The art of staying professional when patients forget the "pants stay on" rule

How team pranks and TikTok trends create the kind of workplace culture people actually want to be part of

When being looked up to means everything from hairstyle choices to shoe preferences

The beautiful vulnerability of working with families through every season of life

The Real Talk: This isn't just about funny patient stories. It's about recognizing that behind every business are real humans with real needs, and sometimes the most profound leadership lessons come from unexpected moments of connection and chaos.

These aren't just "work stories." They're reminders that when you show up with your whole heart, create space for others to do the same, and find joy in the beautifully messy reality of human connection, that's when the real magic happens. That's when work becomes more than work. That's when you're not just running a practice – you're creating a place where people belong.

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What happens when you realize the "safe" path isn't actually serving your soul? Kevin Green knows this tension intimately. From corporate chef to high school educator to personal chef turned professional speaker, Kevin's journey is a masterclass in listening to that inner voice that says "you're made for more" - even when it means walking away from security.

This conversation shares about the courage it takes to step into your authentic voice after years of playing small. Kevin shares the pivotal moments that forced him to confront his own limiting beliefs, the toxic business partnership that became his greatest teacher, and why he spent years "in the closet" - afraid to share his opinion or claim his seat at the table.

🔥 In This Episode:

• Kevin's "Three P's" framework: Purpose, Passion, and Potential as the foundation for creating a life you love
• The difference between living with closed fist control versus open-handed trust
• How a toxic business partnership and unexpected divorce became his greatest teachers about boundaries and self-worth
• Why perfectionism and the need for certainty kept him playing small for years
• The art of taking "responsible risks" while building something meaningful

The Heart Work Moment: Kevin's revelation that "questions cause anxiety, but periods produce power" - and what it means to live from a place of security rather than scrambling for certainty.

This episode reminds us that your story - even the messy, imperfect, still-being-written parts - is exactly what someone else needs to hear. Sometimes the greatest risk isn't jumping into the unknown; it's staying silent when you have something important to say.

Connect with Kevin:

• Instagram: @chefkevinculinary
• TikTok: @kevingreenelevates
• LinkedIn: @kevingreenelevates
• Website: kevingreenelevates.com

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• Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast
• Email: [email protected]

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What do great relationships and thriving businesses have in common? They both fail when you're only focused on the end goal instead of showing up intentionally every day. Dr. Sara and Dr. Marisa get raw about the messy reality of transitioning from boss mode to wife mode, why "How was your day?" conversations aren't cutting it anymore, and the uncomfortable truth about growing together versus growing apart.

This episode dives deep into the real talk about maintaining intimate connection while chasing big dreams. From weekly marriage check-ins that prevent roommate syndrome to navigating wildly different work schedules, this conversation is for anyone who refuses to choose between love and ambition.

🔥 In This Episode:

• The art of shedding your "entrepreneur armor" when you walk through your front door
• How to handle the 80/20 seasons when one partner needs to carry more weight
• Weekly marriage meetings that actually work (and why they're non-negotiable)
• The difference between independence and interdependence in relationships
• Leading by example when you want your partner to do their own inner work
• Why scheduling spontaneity isn't an oxymoron - it's survival
• Creating sacred transitions between work energy and home energy

Stop choosing between building your empire and nurturing your most important relationship. This episode proves that when you show up intentionally for love, everything else gets easier - including success.

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Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast

Email: [email protected]

Join our community: The Heart Work Life Facebook Group as we're gearing up for our 7 day self-love journey starting June 8th, 2025!

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What happens when you stop following someone else's roadmap and start creating a life that aligns with your deepest values? This week, the magnetic Emily Elias joins us for a soul-stirring conversation about finding your path, creating boundaries between work and home, and stepping into authentic leadership.

When COVID forced a pivot in Emily and her husband Alejandro's plans, they didn't panic—they paused to ask deeper questions about what truly mattered to them.

🔥 In This Episode:

• Her inspiring vision to build 300 clinics—a legacy that might extend beyond her lifetime
• How Emily discerns between friction that signals growth versus discomfort that signals misalignment
• The profound truth about delegating: "Just because you can do it all doesn't mean you should"
• Why Emily believes balance is an absolute myth, and the two non-negotiables she focuses on instead
• How stepping into motherhood helped Emily reclaim her identity beyond business partnerships
• Embracing a vision larger than yourself while staying grounded in day-to-day purpose

Emily's life in Abilene, Texas—a place with tumbleweeds and barrel racing—wasn't the mountain paradise she initially envisioned, but it became the perfect foundation for her family and practice.

This conversation is a masterclass in discernment, offering practical wisdom for entrepreneurs navigating the complex dance between ambition and wholeness.

This isn't just another conversation about practice building—it's permission to design a life that honors all aspects of who you are.

Connect with Emily:

• Instagram: @dr.emily.elias
• Path to Victory Podcast: Listen on Spotify
• Website: pathtovictorychiro.com

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• Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast
• Email: [email protected]

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Ready to step into your most authentic leadership?

Dr. Sara is launching The Authentic Leader's Path—an 8-week transformation journey for leaders ready to break free from imposter syndrome and lead from their authentic selves. If you're ready to stop hiding behind what you think leadership should look like and start embodying who you truly are, this is your invitation.

Drop Dr. Sara a DM on Instagram @drsaranelsongray or find her on Facebook, and she'll get you all the details you need. Registration closes May 27th, and there are only a few spots left!!

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Episode 34: From Burnout to Boundaries to Brilliance

This episode flips the script as we step into the guest seats on Amin Said's Beyond Adjustments podcast for a conversation that cuts straight through the highlight-reel version of leadership to the messy, beautiful truth underneath.

In This Episode:

This isn't another "10 steps to better team culture" conversation. It's about what happens in those raw Monday moments when your careful systems crack open to reveal the human heart beneath them.

We dove deep into the questions leaders rarely address out loud:

• What actually causes burnout? (Hint: it's not your workload—it's what you're abandoning in yourself to maintain it)
• How do you set expectations without building walls? The delicate dance between kindness and strength that doesn't sacrifice either
• The courage to stop micromanaging—and why letting your team fail might be the most powerful leadership move you'll ever make
• What it really means when someone exits your practice (and why that might be the exact thing both of you need)

We dug deep into those B-words everyone loves to throw around—burnout, boundaries, and balance—and why they're often misunderstood. Rather than wearing exhaustion as a badge of honor, we explored how setting expectations (not just boundaries) and refusing to abandon yourself creates more sustainable success.

The truth? When you're compromising pieces of yourself that were never meant to be given away in the first place, no amount of systems or structure can save you from eventual collapse.

If this conversation stirred something in you, we'd love to continue it. The Heart Work podcast explores these topics and more—giving you permission to be messy, authentic, and wholeheartedly yourself while still building something extraordinary.

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• Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast
• Email: [email protected]
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Connect with Amin:

• Apple Podcasts: Beyond Adjustments
• Instagram:@beyondchirogrowth

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