May Boeve sits down with Heather Cronk, longtime organizer and founder of Project 21:12, about her journey from deeply committed evangelical Christian and anti-abortion activist to queer progressive movement leader organizing against Christian nationalism.

Heather shares how a childhood in the South and years of rigid theology shaped her worldview, and then how community and lived experience slowly unraveled it. She reflects on the deconstruction process that led her out of evangelicalism, why so many people are leaving those spaces now, and how Project 21:12 is working to find, connect, and organize ex-evangelicals who often leave not just a church, but an entire social world behind.

Plus: Heather offers an unexpectedly practical hot tip for organizers who love a training plan but hate swimming. Skip the triathlon, try a biathlon!

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How We Build This is created and hosted by May Boeve

Producer: Phil Surkis

Theme music: ‘Within’, composed by Ruthie Dineen, and performed by Negative Press Project.

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