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  • 029 Animal Cruelty as the Common Finding in Undercover Investigations: A Conversation With Erica Meier
    In this episode, Kathy continues her conversation with Erica Meier, Director of Compassion over Killing. They discuss:
    -- COK's investigation of Cook Aquaculture, one of the world's largest factory farms for fish
    -- what the public doesn't know about fish farming
    -- Erica's response to the common criticism that cruelty investigators target "the bad apples" of animal agriculture
    -- progress made in 2019: was it enough to label it "the year of the vegan?"
    Key Takeaways:
    -- fish farming causes just as much suffering as the farming of land animals--but on an even vaster scale
    -- labeling horribly cruel practices as "standard" exempts them from cruelty statutes -- but it shouldn't
    -- farm sanctuaries have a central role to play in changing the world for animals
    -- 2019 seemed to be a tipping point: both Kathy and Erica expect stunning and rapid change for animals and the environment in 2020 and beyond.
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  • 028 Consumer Power to Change the World for Animals: A Discussion with Erica Meier of Compassion Over Killing
    In this episode, Kathy and Erica Meier, Executive Director of Compassion Over Killing, discuss:
    -- How factory farms and slaughterhouses are "exploitation machines," harming animals, humans, and the environment
    -- Food retailers' responsiveness to consumer concerns: we have far more power than we recognize
    -- the Starbucks campaign as an example of the above
    -- The likelihood that 2020 will be a game-changing year for animals
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  • 027 From Cattle Rancher’s Wife to Vegan Advocate: Renee King Sonnen of Rowdy Girl Sanctuary and Rancher Advocacy Program
    In this episode, Kathy and Renee King-Sonnen discuss:Renee’s transition from a cattle rancher’s wife to a vegan animal advocate, thanks to the influence of a tiny calf named Rowdy GirlThe extreme emotional toll that cattle ranching took on herThe differences in how ranches and sanctuaries treat animalsThe distress of other ranching families who want to create new, non-exploitive ways to use their landKEY TAKEAWAYS:Many animal farmers are desperate for a new way to make a living.Animal farming is a dying industry, and RAP is an extraordinary support system for farmers wanting to keep their land but reinvent themselves.We must reclaim the Earth for the animals.
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  • 026 Remedying Compassion Fatigue For Animal Caretakers
    In this episode, Julie Squires--lifecoach, compassion fatigue specialist, and host of the podcast Rekindling--discusses with Kathy:
    --the suicide epidemic within veterinary medicine
    --Julie's own personal struggle with mental health, and how it informs her work with others
    --what compassion fatigue is, and how we can "retrain our brain" to overcome it
    Key Takeaways:
    --we're not taught how to be "mentally healthy"
    --our brains are hardwired to think negatively; we must literally retrain them if we want to feel better
    --circumstances are not the cause of our feelings: rather, our thoughts about those circumstances are the cause of our feelings
    --Julie has several tools--from her podcast, to her workshops, to 1:1 coaching, to help "animal workers" reboot and reenergize to be our happiest, healthiest, most impactful selves
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  • 025 Year Of The Vegan
    In this episode, Kathy reviews both extraordinary advancements and disturbing developments from 2019:
    -- the remarkable trajectory of the Impossible and Beyond Burgers
    -- new vegan food products launched in 2019 or ready for 2020
    -- encouraging developments from industries other than food: new vegan leather companies, 40 makeup companies that have gone vegan, and more
    -- the Trump administration's continued assault on animals
    -- grim results of hastening global warming
    Key Takeaways:
    -- Whether we feel hopeful or defeated by 2019 developments is irrelevant. What's important is to use our extraordinary privilege to be our best and most powerful selves.
    This episode was brought to you by Catskill Animal Sanctuary
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  • 024 Kathy Stevens and Rachel McCrystal: Two Farmed Animal Sanctuary Leaders Talk Shop Part 2
    In this podcast, Kathy and Rachel, Executive Director of Woodstock Farm Sanctuary, discuss:
    1. the role of farm sanctuaries in changing the world for all of us
    2. issues to consider if you're thinking of starting an animal sanctuary
    3. a couple books worth reading!
    4. lessons from a little duck named Puddles
    Key Takeaways:
    1. Sanctuaries bring good-hearted people face-to-face with the animals they consume in moments that are frequently life-changing.
    2. Transitioning to a vegan lifestyle is the greatest step one can make to combat global warming.
    2. Proceed with caution if you're considering opening a sanctuary!
    3. Animals offer important lessons even to those who work with them every day, often affirming that "in the ways that truly matter, we're all the same."
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  • 023 Kathy Stevens and Rachel McCrystal: Two Farmed Animal Sanctuary Leaders Talk Shop
    In the first of a two part conversation, Kathy and Rachel McCrystal discuss:
    -- Rachel's unusual childhood growing up in the desert, and how that informed her work on behalf of animals today
    -- Woodstock Sanctuary and some of the animals who reside there
    -- what each of these movement leaders have learned from the animals
    -- some of the "ah-ha's" Rachel has had in her first years as Executive Director
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  • 020 Valerie Taylor: Executive Director of the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries
    In this episode, Kathy and Valerie discuss:
    The many species of animals cared for by accredited sanctuaries around the country
    GFAS’ role as the sanctuary movement’s “Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval”
    The process used by GFAS to give “two thumbs up” to the country’s best sanctuaries
    Signs that indicate a sanctuary might be in trouble
    GFAS plans to foster collaboration between sanctuaries
    Key Takeaways:
    Scores of wonderful sanctuaries are dotted around the country, but even the best need support
    It’s far too easy to become a sanctuary; 50% of sanctuaries fail in the first 3 years
     
    There are important distinctions between “true” sanctuaries and others that Valerie labels “illegitimate”
     
    This show is brought to you by Catskill Animal Sanctuary
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  • 019 Leah Garces: Author of Grilled: Turning Adversaries to Allies to Change the Chicken Industry and President of Mercy for Animals
    In this episode, Kathy and Leah discuss:
    Leah’s leap of faith to leave her life in England and move to Georgia to understand, and ultimately partner with, chicken farmers
    The lives led by newborn chicks in the six weeks they live before being killed for human consumption
    Her relationship with chicken farmer Craig Watts which allowed her to see that farmers, too, are agribusiness victims
    Working with Jim Purdue of the iconic Purdue family who wants to “be the disruptor” of the chicken industry
    Key Takeaways:
    The slaughter line at chicken facilities move so fast that gruesome errors are routine and working conditions are equally inhumane
    Many farmers long to get out of the business of growing animals, but are too indebted to do so.
    Listening to, understanding, and working with “the enemy” is the best way to bring about real and lasting change
     
    This show is brought to you by Catskill Animal Sanctuary.
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Each Wednesday, join Kathy Stevens, acclaimed author, speaker, and founder of Catskill Animal Sanctuary (CASanctuary.org), one of the world's leading sanctuaries for farmed animals, as she and her…