This week we catch up with Tom Kellermann, Head of Cybersecurity Strategy at VMWare to discuss the explosion in, and growing aggression of, cyber cartels and the differences in attack motives across nation-state attackers and the offer that just can't be refused by the "untouchables". We also dive into the little known mission of the U.S. Secret Service and mandate to investigate financial crimes dating back to the Civil War - and the tell signs that cyber financial attacks foreshadow for future government attack vectors. (Learn more by getting a copy of the upcoming "Modern Bank Heists" report.) We also also take a look at the cyber road ahead and moving away from a backward-looking prevention approach to one that is more of a clandestine cyber offense strategy akin to a SuperMax prison that takes an inside-out approach to security, while also considering how to turn the tables on cyber cartels through disinformation strategies. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e125