Tired of visiting destinations where you are 1 of thousands of other tourists?

Are you looking to travel to places that are a bit off the main tourist track?

Then you'll want to tune into this episode.

I'm talking to Andrew Nelson, author of the book Here Not There.

Andrew has written an incredible book filled with alternative ideas of places to travel to so you can avoid some of the over touristed spots and enjoy destinations that are similar, just as amazing but with fewer people.

We discuss the state of travel today, how to be a traveler no matter your age or your budget and yes, we talk about some awesome destinations.

Want to chat more about travel?

Send me an email at [email protected]


In this episode:

0:59: Intro

2:08:  Introducing Andrew Nelson

3:19: Becoming an explorer & considering impact

8:39: Book Categories

14:30: Romania

18:01: Lecce & Ischia & Ostia Antica

27:59: Avebury & Manchester

33:00: Nimes Arena & Coliseums

36:36: Montenegro

38:10: Adamello Brenta

41:19: Islands: Isles of Scilly, St. Michael’s Mount, Corfu

45:29: Andrew’s Picks: Lecce, Ostia, Budapest, Thousand Islands, Santa Barbara

49:41: A bit more about Andrew's book

51:20: Traveling to lesser touristed destinations

52:33: Wrapping up



Important links:

Andrew Nelson on Instagram

Andrew Nelson

Here Not There

Which Is Better? Stonehenge or Avebury?

Overtourism: Are We Loving Some Places to Death?

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Thanks to Callisa Mickle who edits the audio.

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