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In this raw and hope-filled episode, Rhona sits down with marriage and intimacy coach Jen Johnson to talk about the real work of restoration—when staying feels harder than walking away.

Jen shares her powerful story of facing betrayal, grief, her husband's health crisis, and the deep inner work required to rebuild trust. She opens up about letting go of self-righteousness, grieving the loss of what “should have been,” and discovering a deeper purpose on the other side of pain.

Whether you're walking through marriage challenges, personal loss, or wondering if healing is still possible—this episode is your reminder: it’s never too far gone for God to redeem.

How to hold space for those you lead:

🧭 1. Lead with presence, not pressure.

Jen’s healing didn’t come from someone trying to fix her—it came through space, time, and grace. As a leader, your steady presence creates safety. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can say is:

🌿 2. Normalize struggle without judgment.

When Jen shared the raw parts of her journey, she invited others to drop the mask. As a leader, you can say:

💥 3 Reminders for High-Capacity Leaders (Inspired by Jen’s Story)

1. Capacity isn’t immunity.
   Jen was strong, successful, and capable—but when grief and betrayal hit, even she had to slow down and heal. Being high-capacity doesn’t mean you don’t break—it means you need deeper rhythms of care.
2. Overfunctioning isn’t leadership—it’s survival.
   Jen could have thrown herself into fixing everything fast. Instead, she chose the hard, slow work of rebuilding—letting God lead, rather than her own strength.
3. What you build is only as strong as what you believe.
   Jen and her husband didn’t just rebuild a marriage—they rebuilt their foundation in God first. That inner restoration made room for real, lasting intimacy.

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In today’s episode, Rhona chats with her long-time friend Brooke about navigating life’s challenges, personal growth, and the power of lasting friendships. Brooke shares her journey from social work in the nonprofit and state sectors to the pharmaceutical world. She shares how loosing her son, and walking through grief has shaped the way she lives and leads others today.

Brooke offers powerful insights on balancing family, career, and creative passions, proving that embracing challenges leads to transformation.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Personal Growth Through Career and Life Changes: Brooke reflects on her journey through different careers, highlighting the growth she experienced from social work to the pharmaceutical industry.
• Lessons from Social Work and the Nonprofit Sector: Insights into the importance of empathy, advocacy, and service from Brooke’s work in the nonprofit and state sectors.
• Grief and Healing: Brooke opens up about the painful experience of losing her son and shares how grief has deeply shaped her leadership and personal life.
• Balancing Family, Career, and Passion: Tips on how to navigate multiple roles while maintaining your own well-being and purpose.
• The Power of Meaningful Connections: The impact of lasting friendships and how they can be a source of strength and support during challenging times.

Tips for High-Capacity Leaders Navigating Grief:

1. Allow Yourself to Feel: It's important to acknowledge and process the pain of loss. Grief can be isolating, but facing it head-on allows space for healing.
2. Leverage Your Support System: Lean into friendships, mentors, or support groups. Brooke emphasizes the importance of meaningful connections for emotional strength.
3. Practice Self-Compassion: As a high-capacity leader, you may feel the pressure to keep moving forward, but taking time for self-care and grace is essential for long-term healing.
4. Create Space for Reflection: Find moments in your busy life to reflect on your experiences and the lessons you’ve learned from grief. This can foster personal growth and greater empathy in leadership.

Simple Tool for Encouraging Healing:

• The Gratitude Practice: Start or end your day by writing down three things you’re grateful for. This simple tool can shift your focus from pain to healing by acknowledging the positive aspects of life, even during tough times. Brooke shares how practicing gratitude has helped her find peace amidst grief and foster resilience.

Tune in for this inspiring conversation on growth, resilience, and the beauty of meaningful connections. Brooke’s journey proves that even through the hardest times, there is room for transformation and healing.

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“Are you overextending yourself trying to do it all on your own?”
What if surrendering control is the key to sustaining your impact—not slowing it down?

In this week’s episode, I sat down with HAVEN, the founder of a nationwide Virtual Assistance company, to talk about the importance of surrendering in the midst of growth. As a high-capacity leader, HAVEN found herself in a challenging season—stretched thin, pulled in multiple directions, and questioning how to maintain balance in a culture obsessed with maximizing productivity. In this heartfelt conversation, she shares how identifying her true capacity and surrendering to a pace that was sustainable brought her the peace and clarity she needed to continue leading effectively.

HAVEN’s journey is a powerful reminder for all leaders who feel the weight of constantly striving for more—more clients, more growth, more success. She explains how letting go of the need to overproduce allowed her to thrive, rather than burn out.

In This Episode, You’ll See:

• The importance of identifying your personal capacity as a leader and creating boundaries that protect your energy and well-being.
• How surrendering to a sustainable pace can lead to long-term success, both professionally and personally.

🎯 2 Ways High-Capacity Leaders Can Identify and Surrender Their Need to Maximize:

1. Recognize the Red Flags of Overproduction.

Pay attention to the quiet signals: persistent exhaustion, decreased creativity, irritability, or a sense that your “yes” is outrunning your peace. These are invitations to pause and ask:

When you’re driven by fear of falling behind, it’s a sign to surrender. Surrender doesn’t stunt growth—it strengthens the root system for future fruit.

2. Redefine Success by Your Values, Not Just Output.

Ask: “What matters most to me in this season? Does my current pace reflect that?”
Faith reminds us that God can do more with our little surrendered than our hustle-driven excess. Healthy rhythms aren’t about doing less—they’re about doing what actually matters. Ask yourself and your team:

These questions shift the culture from constant output to sustainable impact.

Whether you’re a seasoned entrepreneur or a leader just starting out, this episode offers valuable insights into how slowing down and embracing your capacity can actually propel you toward greater success. Tune in now to hear HAVEN’s inspiring story and learn how you, too, can thrive by surrendering.

Rhona is a Certified Primal Question Coach, Speaker, Author, founder @ The Miami Design Studio, International Artist and mom of 4. 

If you're interested in working with Rhona visit her website www.heyrhona.com or connect on social @hey.rhona

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