In this conversation, John Azoni and Seth O'Dell discuss the integration of AI in marketing, particularly within the context of a digital marketing agency. They explore the challenges and opportunities presented by AI, emphasizing the importance of understanding its limitations and leveraging it as a tool to enhance creativity and efficiency. Seth shares insights on implementing AI strategies, the tools being used, and the future of AI in content creation, ultimately advocating for a balanced approach to AI adoption in the marketing landscape.

The AI tools that were referenced in the episode are these:

🔧 1. ChatGPT Teams

Used by both your team and Seth’s for research, scriptwriting, and creative ideation.
 🔗 https://openai.com/chatgpt/teams

🧠 2. Whispr Flow

Used by Seth for voice-to-text input directly into any field (especially ChatGPT).
 🔗 https://wisprflow.ai/

🎥 3. Loom (with AI SOP feature)

Used to record processes and auto-generate standard operating procedures from video.
 🔗 https://www.loom.com

📞 4. Fathom

Used to record, transcribe, and summarize meetings, generating notes and follow-up actions.
 🔗 https://fathom.video

🎙 5. ElevenLabs

Used to clone voiceover artists for scratch tracks and real VO in marketing videos.
 🔗 https://www.elevenlabs.io

🎬 6. Opus Clip

Used for cutting up video content (e.g., podcast clips) into short-form, AI-generated social videos.
 🔗 https://www.opus.pro

🖼 7. Adobe Generative Fill (Photoshop)

Used to extend image backgrounds, clean up photos, and add visual elements using AI.
 🔗 https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/generative-fill.html

🎞 8. Google Veo

Used for abstract generative video, particularly when reenactments or B-roll are unavailable.
 🔗 https://deepmind.google/technologies/veo

🖥 9. Canva Magic Design (AI-powered slides)

Used by you to turn strategy outlines into full AI-generated presentation slides.
 🔗 https://www.canva.com/magic-design/

🔑 Key Takeaways

1. AI is a powerful assistant, not a replacement
    It should be used as a “subcontractor” to support human creativity—helping with research, ideation, and repetitive tasks while keeping decision-making and taste in human hands.
2. Adoption starts with leadership and culture
    Leaders must actively encourage exploration, experimentation, and knowledge-sharing to create a culture where AI tools are embraced and integrated into workflows.
3. Understanding AI’s limits is as important as leveraging its strengths
    Knowing where AI fails is crucial for using it responsibly and effectively. Organizations should focus on learning both the capabilities and shortcomings of the tools they use.
4. AI unlocks efficiency, not just productivity
    From speeding up casting, scripting, and reporting to automating standard operating procedures, AI reduces friction—freeing teams to focus on high-value creative work.

In this conversation, Jennifer Porter and John Azoni discuss the critical role of storytelling in fundraising, particularly within higher education. They explore how to connect donors to specific needs, the importance of collaboration across departments, and the impact of authenticity in donor engagement. Real-life examples illustrate how effective storytelling can resonate with donors and drive contributions. The discussion emphasizes the need for fundraisers to be open about challenges and to use data and stories effectively to engage their audience.

🎯 Key Takeaways from the Episode:

1. Don’t be afraid to tell real, messy stories. Authentic narratives—especially ones that reveal challenges—create stronger emotional connections with donors.
2. Cross-department collaboration enhances storytelling. Fundraising, marketing, and alumni teams should align efforts to maximize storytelling impact and avoid working in silos.
3. Connect donors to people, not just statistics. Specific, human-centered stories resonate more deeply than generic data or institutional updates.
4. Make the donor feel their impact is tangible. Whether through a scholarship, mentorship, or general fund support, donors want to know exactly who and how they’re helping.

In this episode, John Azoni discusses the importance of storytelling in higher education content creation. He emphasizes the need to move beyond basic information sharing to create compelling narratives that resonate emotionally with audiences. The conversation covers the science behind storytelling, the distinction between narrative and declarative storytelling, and the significance of human-first thinking in crafting engaging content. John also provides practical examples and insights on how to ask better questions to elicit more meaningful stories from individuals, ultimately aiming for content that is memorable and impactful.

Key Takeaways:

• Not all content is storytelling: Simply sharing facts or descriptions isn’t storytelling — stories require emotional depth and human connection.
• Show, don’t just tell: Strong content immerses the audience with specific moments, sensory details, and authentic emotion.
• Declarative storytelling works too: It doesn’t need a full plot — personality, vulnerability, and a human-first approach can be just as impactful.
• Better questions = better stories: The way you frame questions determines whether you get surface-level info or meaningful, memorable moments.
• Quality beats quantity: One emotionally resonant piece of content is more valuable than ten forgettable ones.

Links:

• Learn more about UNVEILD: https://unveild.tv
• Subscribe to the Higher Ed Storytelling Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter
• Watch podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HigherEdStorytelling

In this conversation, John Azoni and Rob Clark discuss the evolution of Rob's family brand on social media, the impact of COVID on their career paths, and insights from Rob's new book on social media success. They explore the importance of storytelling, audience engagement, and the balance between quantity and quality in content creation. In this conversation, Rob Clark and John Azoni discuss the unpredictable nature of content success on social media, particularly in the context of higher education marketing. They emphasize the importance of balancing quality and quantity in content creation, understanding trends without losing brand identity, and defining success in social media efforts. The discussion also highlights the need for consistent content creation and the evolving role of social media in marketing strategies for universities.

Key takeaways:

1. One video can change everything—you don’t need a massive following if one strong piece hits the right audience.
2. Quantity leads to quality—consistent output is key to learning what resonates and gaining traction.
3. Shares matter most—likes are nice, but shares drive real reach and impact.
4. Organic content is your testing ground—see what works before investing in ads.
5. The future of marketing is social—Rob predicts social media teams will be the marketing teams within 5 years.

Links:

• Connect with Rob Clark on LinkedIn 
• Link to book referenced in episode: Growing Your Influence by Rob Clark 
• Learn more about UNVEILD: https://unveild.tv
• Subscribe to the Higher Ed Storytelling Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter
• Watch podcast episodes on YouTube: Higher Ed Storytelling on YouTube

In this conversation, Tony Sheridan shares his unique journey from a woodwork teacher to a marketing and communications manager at KAUST in Saudi Arabia. He discusses the transformative power of higher education, his innovative approaches to social media at the University of Limerick, and the importance of storytelling in effectively communicating the benefits of education. Tony emphasizes the need for creativity and inspiration beyond traditional higher education practices, advocating for a narrative-driven approach to marketing that highlights the benefits rather than just the features of educational programs. In this conversation, John Azoni and Tony discuss the critical role of storytelling in content creation, particularly in higher education. They explore the differences between narrative and declarative storytelling, the importance of engaging hooks, and the necessity of conflict in storytelling. Tony shares his experiences working in Saudi Arabia, emphasizing cultural sensitivity and the need for diverse representation in storytelling. The discussion concludes with practical tips for effective storytelling, encouraging content creators to focus on their audience's needs and the overarching narrative they wish to convey.

Key takeaways:

1. Higher ed changed Tony’s life—he went from construction work to leading global marketing efforts in academia.
2. Storytelling beats features—narrative and emotional engagement are more impactful than just listing facts.
3. Inspiration should come from everywhere, not just other universities—great ideas often come from outside the industry.
4. Good content has structure—start with a hook, re-hook throughout, and always know the goal behind the story.
5. Diversity and authenticity matter—Tony’s storytelling in Saudi Arabia centered real people and underrepresented voices, backed by clear content pillars.

🔗 Links & Resources:

• Connect with Tony Sheridan on LinkedIn 
• Learn more about UNVEILD: https://unveild.tv
• Subscribe to the Higher Ed Storytelling Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter
• Watch podcast episodes on YouTube: Higher Ed Storytelling on YouTube
• Referenced in episode:
  - Trey Parker and Matt Stone from South Park on Storytelling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGUNqq3jVLg
• KAUST (King Abdullah University of Science and Technology) – where Tony works: https://www.kaust.edu.sa

In this conversation, Warren Cook, co-owner of Make Something Beautiful LLC, shares his journey from a creative director in advertising to a filmmaker focused on authentic storytelling. He discusses his passion for capturing unique stories in Fort Worth, the importance of personal connections in filmmaking, and his transition to working with Texas A&M. Warren emphasizes the value of quirky, offbeat campaigns that resonate with audiences and the significance of casting diverse voices to tell compelling narratives. In this conversation, John Azoni and Warren discuss the intricacies of higher education marketing, focusing on the production process, the importance of authenticity, and the creative risks involved in storytelling. They share insights from their experiences, including the challenges and rewards of filming in various settings, the recognition received for their work, and the future projects on the horizon for Make Something Beautiful. The discussion emphasizes the need for higher ed marketers to push boundaries and create content that resonates with students.

What You’ll Learn:

• Authenticity Over Advertising: Warren transitioned from advertising to filmmaking in pursuit of honest storytelling. He prioritizes real, unscripted moments and believes in showcasing people as they truly are—quirky, passionate, and genuine.
• Relationships Are Central to Storytelling: His process involves deeply connecting with subjects, often forming lasting relationships beyond the shoot. For Warren, storytelling is as much about the people behind the camera as it is those in front.
• Quirky, Theatrical Style with Substance: Blending Wes Anderson’s theatrical flair with real-life moments, Warren’s style is visually unique but always grounded in truth. He embraces creative risks to make content that surprises and delights—especially in spaces like higher ed and corporate environments.
• Student-Driven, Diversity-Rich Content Wins in Higher Ed: From casting to production, Warren focuses on individuality—highlighting students’ real lives, hobbies, and voices. His Texas A&M campaign succeeded by letting students lead the narrative, showcasing their personalities and fringe interests like cosplay and LARPing.
• Creative Freedom and Trust Lead to Impactful Work: Warren credits successful projects to trust and collaboration, especially when clients let go of traditional marketing expectations. The result? Award-winning work that resonates with audiences by breaking away from cliché higher ed visuals.

Resources & Links:

• Connect with Warren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/warrencook/
• Follow John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnazoni
• Learn more about UNVEILD: https://www.unveild.tv
• Subscribe to the Higher Ed Storytelling Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter
  
  

Links to things they referenced:

• “Where You Belong” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HuNiDUqCE0
• Visit Fort Worth stories - “Rambo” the photographer: https://vimeo.com/247396898?share=copy
• “Bug Girl” solo story: https://www.msb-creative.com/project/the-bugs/

In this episode, John Azoni chats with Maya Demiskevich, a higher ed CMO, marketing strategist, and social media consultant. Maya shares how she overcame imposter syndrome and fear of judgment to start posting on LinkedIn—an intentional decision that changed the trajectory of her career. Since then, she’s presented at over 10 higher ed conferences, landed podcast features (including this one!), and built a thriving community.

John and Maya dive into the mindset shift that helped her start creating, how she balances LinkedIn content with a busy life, and the power of staying curious and authentic online. They also explore Maya’s entrepreneurial ventures—from a food business to higher ed analytics—and how experimentation fuels her creativity.

Whether you’re trying to grow your LinkedIn presence or find the courage to start sharing, Maya’s story will inspire you to take the leap.

Key Takeaways:

• Start Before You’re Ready: Maya started posting on LinkedIn just two years ago by putting aside perfectionism and focusing on curiosity.
• Let Go of Imposter Syndrome: You don’t have to be the expert in everything to contribute meaningfully. Share what you know.
• Consistency Is Personal: Maya posts when inspiration strikes, proving that you don’t need a rigid schedule to grow your presence.
• Career Growth Through Visibility: From speaking at AMA to podcast invites, visibility on LinkedIn has led to real-world opportunities.
• Entrepreneurial Spirit: Maya shares how trying new things—from vegan snacks to social media analytics—has helped her stay engaged and creative.
• Balancing it All: With a full-time job, side businesses, and a family, Maya explains how collaboration with her entrepreneurial husband makes it all work.

Resources & Links:

• Check out the Social Media Calculator here: https://mycollegecrusader.com/social-media-calculator/
• Connect with Maya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayademiskevich/
• Follow John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnazoni
• Learn more about UNVEILD: https://www.unveild.tv
• Subscribe to the Higher Ed Storytelling Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter

In this episode, John Azoni chats with Randolph Infinger, Senior Video Producer at Vanderbilt University, about his journey from digital marketing to video production, how Vanderbilt’s creative team is structured, and what it takes to produce videos that truly connect with audiences.

Randolph shares his love for conceptual storytelling, explains how jazz influences his editing choices, and offers insight into balancing artistic freedom with brand consistency in a large institution. From project workflows to platform-specific content strategies, this is a must-listen for higher ed marketers navigating in-house video production.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• From Digital Marketing to Video Production: Randolph’s unexpected path into video started with a record label request for lyric videos—a spark that ignited a new creative passion.
• The Jazz Effect: Jazz music plays a key role in Randolph’s editing style, creating a unique and upbeat energy that feels both academic and approachable.
• Creative Team Structure at Vanderbilt: With a five-person visual media team inside a larger 50-person creative team, collaboration and clear role delineation keep projects flowing smoothly.
• How They Triage Projects: Video requests go through a structured process using Wrike, but not every request gets accepted. The team filters projects based on alignment with Vanderbilt’s brand and marketing goals.
• Balancing Consistency and Freedom: While brand alignment is critical, Vanderbilt empowers creators with room to explore, test new ideas, and collaborate across departments and platforms.

🔗 Links & Resources:

• Connect with Randolph Infinger on LinkedIn
• Learn more about UNVEILD: https://unveild.tv
• Subscribe to the Higher Ed Storytelling Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter
• Watch podcast episodes on YouTube: Higher Ed Storytelling on YouTube

In this episode of Higher Ed Storytelling University, host John Azoni sits down with Heather MacBain, Head of Marketing at the University of Edinburgh. Heather manages a vast network of over 300 MarCom staff across the university, spanning marketing, communications, and stakeholder engagement roles. She shares insights on how their unique structure helps keep everyone aligned in messaging, branding, and strategy.

Heather and John discuss the challenges of managing a decentralized marketing team, the importance of maintaining brand consistency, and how Edinburgh fosters a strong community of practice among its marketing professionals. They also dive into the impact of social media, the power of professional development, and how to create clear vision and autonomy within a large institution.

Key Takeaways:

• Managing a Large MarCom Team – How Edinburgh’s decentralized structure operates effectively with 300+ marketing professionals.
• The Power of Community – Building a strong internal network to share best practices and stay aligned with university goals.
• Social Media Strategy – Why marketing teams need to focus on engagement and community-building rather than just posting.
• Brand Consistency vs. Creative Autonomy – Finding the right balance between clear guidelines and allowing departments flexibility.
• Professional Development for Marketers – The importance of continuous learning and how Edinburgh supports its MarCom staff.

If you’re looking for insights on marketing leadership, brand management, and building a strong internal marketing community, this episode is for you.

Connect with John Azoni:

• LinkedIn: John Azoni
• Website: Unveild
• Newsletter: Subscribe here
  
  

Connect with Heather MacBain:

• LinkedIn: Heather MacBain
• Website: University of Edinburg

In this episode, John Azoni sits down with Kathleen Barth, Digital Product Manager at 3 Enrollment Marketing, to discuss the ever-changing landscape of paid digital advertising for higher ed institutions. Kathleen brings a wealth of experience from the entertainment industry, having worked with Netflix, Warner Brothers, and Disney, before transitioning to enrollment marketing.

They explore the differences between organic and paid marketing, the increasing costs of digital ads, and how higher ed institutions can make the most of their advertising budgets. Kathleen also shares insights on why hyper-targeting is becoming more difficult, the impact of privacy regulations on paid media, and practical strategies for running effective digital campaigns.

Key Takeaways:

• The Shift from Organic to Paid: Kathleen shares her journey from organic marketing to paid ads and the unique challenges that come with running paid campaigns.
• Why Digital Advertising Costs Keep Rising: As more brands shift budgets to digital, ad prices go up. Kathleen explains why colleges need to plan for increasing costs.
• Targeting in 2024: Platforms like Meta are limiting hyper-targeting, making broad audience strategies more important than ever.
• Lessons from Entertainment Marketing: Kathleen’s experience in Hollywood marketing offers valuable insights into storytelling and audience engagement.
• Tips for Enrollment Marketing Teams: Practical strategies for maximizing return on ad spend (ROAS) and creating ads that drive student engagement.

Connect with Kathleen Barth:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kfbarth/
• 3 Enrollment Marketing: https://www.3enrollment.com
  
  

Connect with John:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnazoni
• Website: https://unveild.tv
• Newsletter: https://unveild.tv/newsletter