Today’s guest is none other than Dan Charnas. If you’re an avid reader of the genre, you’re probably familiar with his 2010 publication titled The Big Payback: The History of the Business of Hip-Hop. In addition to The Big Payback, Charnas is one of the pioneering voices in hip-hop journalism. He worked for the Source in the early infancy stages of the magazine, and became an A&R for Rick Rubin’s Def American venture in the 1990s in which he helped shape the careers of artists like Sir Mixalot, Chino XL and Kwest the Madd Ladd. Additionally, he’s written for The Washington Post, The Financial Times, the Chicago Tibune, Complex, Village Voice, Spin, and more. In 2016, Charnas co-created the VH1 movie The Breaks, which was later adapted into a television series under the same name. Charnas now teaches at NYU and Columbia and is working on a new book on the life of J-Dilla titled Dilla Time.
This podcast speaks on his 2010 book The Big Payback. Recently, the book saw it’s 10 year anniversary and it’s one of the best pieces of hip-hop literature I’ve gotten a chance to read. We talk a bit about his upcoming work on Dilla as well, however for those that read The Big Payback, this conversation will serve as a nice behind the scenes look at the creation process.