In this episode, Megan & Jennifer are joined by Ian Carleton Schaefer, Partner at Sheppard Mullin, legal advisor to Fortune 100 companies and global institutions, and conductor of the Second Ending Ensemble. Ian’s story is anything but linear, and that’s exactly what makes it inspiring.

Ian shares the powerful story behind his “second ending,” a musical term turned life philosophy that helped him reconnect with a lifelong passion for music while navigating a high-powered legal career. He talks about studying conducting at Juilliard during the pandemic, how music and law are related to each other, and why every professional deserves permission to pursue the thing that lights them up.

This episode closes with a special performance excerpt from A Solar Symphony, a commissioned piece by Welsh composer Katie Jenkins, played by Ian’s Second Ending Ensemble at Jazz at Lincoln Center.

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