We kick off with Fintan and Jon talking about stuff, with some things thrown in there too; Chairman School probably gets a mention, it's hard to say for sure [0:00 - 12:53].

Then the chaps are joined by Robert Lenzhofer co-founder and CEO of Hölle Games, to talk about the company's rapid rise and genuinely novel take on things. Hölle Games focuses on two main areas: Slot Studio, which creates games specifically for the German market, and Hinterzimmer, a back-end platform for game development. The company has taken a bootstrapped approach and has grown steadily, with plans to expand into the UK and US markets. 

The conversation explores the role of machine learning and AI in game development and the potential for fully automated game development in the future. The importance of a platform for game development and the power of AI in optimizing games are also discussed. The limitations of AI in creative fields and the potential of AI in artwork and design are explored. The rapid pace of AI development and the impact of AI on affiliates and SEO are also considered [12:54 - 1:24:27].

God bless AI.