Horror Business

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that’s here to help you ring in the new year. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing our favorite films of 2017!

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam and Justin discuss both seeing It Stains The Sands Red.

We give honorable mentions to Alien: Covenant, Cure For Wellness, The Vault, Split, Devil’s Candy, The Lure, Better Watch Out, Prevenge, Sam Was Here, It Stains The Sands Red, Mayhem, and The Void.

Liam’s Top Ten Of 2017

 

 

Justin’s Top Ten Of 2017

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, Alexis, and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the holliest, jolliest, and most horrifyingly unfunny podcast out there. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing two films involving the horror that is Christmastime: 1980’s Christmas Evil and 2017’s Better Watch Out.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam discusses revisiting some Asian horror films (2LDK & Suicide Club) and why he was not a fan of them upon their initial release due to the glut of Asian horror films in the U.S. at the time. Justin then discusses watching The Lure which Liam also watched. Justin discusses seeing The Shape Of Water and how it impacted him, as well as watching the film Sam Was Here, which is currently available to stream on Shudder. Liam briefly talks about seeing Creep 2, and Justin talks about seeing Mayhem and A Ghost Story. Liam briefly touches upon seeing Personal Shopper.

Up first is 1980’s Christmas Evil. Justin opens up the discussion with the apparently heretical to Liam opinion that this film is better than Black Christmas. Liam then admits he went into this episode prepared to yell at Justin for not liking it. We then talk about how despite the punny title, the film is not a slasher unlike most Christmas themed horror films. We give a summation of the film, discussing some of the underlying themes of the film (class warfare, socialism, the lingering effects of childhood trauma, the secrets of the family).

We talk about the strange culture surrounding the perception of Santa Claus in America, in that Santa is perceived as benevolent despite doing things that, if anyone else did, would be considered creepy and weird and criminal.

The theme of injustice in the world and how the film deals with it is examined, as is the ‘80s theme of greed and excess.

The theme of the movie being driven by class concerns and justice as opposed to the typical ‘80s slasher film being somewhat puritanical and overly movie is talked about at length.

Liam proposes that the films central argument is that Santa Claus, as a phenomenon, is more befitting for the lower class. Liam also talks about the theological implications of the film i.e. the rich only attending church on Christmas out of a sense of duty as opposed to actually wanting to better the world.

Next is 2017’s Better Watch Out. We open up by giving a brief summation of the film and noting that the film does not rely upon Christmas for it’s plot; it could literally take place at any point in the year. The plot twist of the movie is discussed and some of the themes are examined, namely toxic masculinity and male privilege.

There is a somewhat spirited debate on actor Levi Miller’s performance as the antagonist; Justin is not a fan while Liam is.

Liam argues that Miller’s character is less a pretend badass and more a “Richard Spencer” style jerkoff, someone who is ‘self important and smart’, while Justin argues that Miller’s performances fails to elicit any real sense of menace or villainy and is instead flat and unmoving. Liam argues that all of Miller’s pretense is simply an exercise in power in that he was planning to kill everyone else the whole time no matter what happened.

Justin talks about despite his misgivings on Miller’s performance he found the ending extremely satisfying. Justin also discusses what he perceived as a clash of two different portrayals of Miller’s character; he is either a petulant child throwing a fit at things not working out for him or he is a calm and collected sociopath in control at all times and things only go the way he wants them to go. Liam argues otherwise, and we yell at each other for a bit. The performances of the other actors are briefly touched upon.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, Alexis, and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the holliest, jolliest, and most horrifyingly unfunny podcast out there. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing two films involving the horror that is Christmastime: 1980’s Christmas Evil and 2017’s Better Watch Out.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam discusses revisiting some Asian horror films (2LDK & Suicide Club) and why he was not a fan of them upon their initial release due to the glut of Asian horror films in the U.S. at the time. Justin then discusses watching The Lure which Liam also watched. Justin discusses seeing The Shape Of Water and how it impacted him, as well as watching the film Sam Was Here, which is currently available to stream on Shudder. Liam briefly talks about seeing Creep 2, and Justin talks about seeing Mayhem and A Ghost Story. Liam briefly touches upon seeing Personal Shopper.

Up first is 1980’s Christmas Evil. Justin opens up the discussion with the apparently heretical to Liam opinion that this film is better than Black Christmas. Liam then admits he went into this episode prepared to yell at Justin for not liking it. We then talk about how despite the punny title, the film is not a slasher unlike most Christmas themed horror films. We give a summation of the film, discussing some of the underlying themes of the film (class warfare, socialism, the lingering effects of childhood trauma, the secrets of the family).

We talk about the strange culture surrounding the perception of Santa Claus in America, in that Santa is perceived as benevolent despite doing things that, if anyone else did, would be considered creepy and weird and criminal.

The theme of injustice in the world and how the film deals with it is examined, as is the ‘80s theme of greed and excess.

The theme of the movie being driven by class concerns and justice as opposed to the typical ‘80s slasher film being somewhat puritanical and overly movie is talked about at length.

Liam proposes that the films central argument is that Santa Claus, as a phenomenon, is more befitting for the lower class. Liam also talks about the theological implications of the film i.e. the rich only attending church on Christmas out of a sense of duty as opposed to actually wanting to better the world.

Next is 2017’s Better Watch Out. We open up by giving a brief summation of the film and noting that the film does not rely upon Christmas for it’s plot; it could literally take place at any point in the year. The plot twist of the movie is discussed and some of the themes are examined, namely toxic masculinity and male privilege.

There is a somewhat spirited debate on actor Levi Miller’s performance as the antagonist; Justin is not a fan while Liam is.

Liam argues that Miller’s character is less a pretend badass and more a “Richard Spencer” style jerkoff, someone who is ‘self important and smart’, while Justin argues that Miller’s performances fails to elicit any real sense of menace or villainy and is instead flat and unmoving. Liam argues that all of Miller’s pretense is simply an exercise in power in that he was planning to kill everyone else the whole time no matter what happened.

Justin talks about despite his misgivings on Miller’s performance he found the ending extremely satisfying.

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the creepiest AND crawliest podcast out there. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing two films involving gross insects: 1975’s Bug and 1997’s Mimic.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam discusses watching The Transfiguration and Lace Crater. Justin doesn’t contribute much to this conversation since all he did was watch the trailers for Devil’s Gate, You Shall Not Sleep, and Day Of The Dead: Bloodline.

Up first is 1975’s Bug. Right off the bat it’s clear we don’t like this movie. It’s uneven in tone, lacks any sense of real urgency, lacks a clear narrative, and deviates from the normal ‘monster bug attacks town’ story in a really horrible way.

We discuss the lack of relatable characters and how no one in the movie is really likeable. We also examine the bizarre and seemingly sadistic motivations for the apparent main character, the general plodding nature of the third act, and some of the weirder aspects of the titular insects.

Next is 1997’s Mimic. We start by talking about what we didn’t like about the movie, namely the ‘magical autistic child’ trope and the decision to base Mira Sorvino’s inner turmoil around her seeming infertility.

We then move on to talk about what we did like about the movie, as well as what we like about del Toro as a whole. Justin briefly talks about his strange infatuation with the concept of ‘cryptoterrestrials’ and creatures that look like people and move amongst us undetected, as well as the concept of there being a whole separate subterranean society that is unknown to the wider world.

Del Toro’s tendency to include some kind of faith-based narrative in his films is briefly discussed. The effects of the film, both practical and CGI are discussed, we touch upon a ranking of sorts of del Toro’s work, and overall we give the movie a very positive review.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, Alexis, and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the creepiest AND crawliest podcast out there. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing two films involving gross insects: 1975’s Bug and 1997’s Mimic.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam discusses watching The Transfiguration and Lace Crater. Justin doesn’t contribute much to this conversation since all he did was watch the trailers for Devil’s Gate, You Shall Not Sleep, and Day Of The Dead: Bloodline.

Up first is 1975’s Bug. Right off the bat it’s clear we don’t like this movie. It’s uneven in tone, lacks any sense of real urgency, lacks a clear narrative, and deviates from the normal ‘monster bug attacks town’ story in a really horrible way.

We discuss the lack of relatable characters and how no one in the movie is really likeable. We also examine the bizarre and seemingly sadistic motivations for the apparent main character, the general plodding nature of the third act, and some of the weirder aspects of the titular insects.

Next is 1997’s Mimic. We start by talking about what we didn’t like about the movie, namely the ‘magical autistic child’ trope and the decision to base Mira Sorvino’s inner turmoil around her seeming infertility.

We then move on to talk about what we did like about the movie, as well as what we like about del Toro as a whole. Justin briefly talks about his strange infatuation with the concept of ‘cryptoterrestrials’ and creatures that look like people and move amongst us undetected, as well as the concept of there being a whole separate subterranean society that is unknown to the wider world.

Del Toro’s tendency to include some kind of faith-based narrative in his films is briefly discussed. The effects of the film, both practical and CGI are discussed, we touch upon a ranking of sorts of del Toro’s work, and overall we give the movie a very positive review.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, Alexis, and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the most excellent and rad podcast in the land. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing a small sampling of the films of the great Larry Cohen: 1974’s It’s Alive and 1982’s Q: The Winged Serpent. There were some minor audio issues this episode so we apologize in advance!

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam discusses his recent venture to Chicago to attend the annual Cinepocalypse Festival where he was lucky enough to interview Eric Roberts for his other podcast Eric Roberts Is The Fucking Man. This ties in with this episode Liam was also fortunate enough to mingle with the likes of Larry Cohen out in Chicago.

Liam also discusses some of the films he saw while in Chicago, including The Lodgers, Lowlife, Snowflake, and Downrange. He also talks about catching the films Hellhouse LLC on Shudder. Justin talks about being misfortunate enough to see the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre film Leatherface that leads into a brief discussion on Stephen Dorff being an underrated actor. The obsession with horror remakes trying to make the villain endearing is briefly touched upon. Justin also talks watching The Vault, and then we briefly talk about Stranger Things and the upcoming adaption of Hellboy.

Up first is 1974’s It’s Alive. We start by giving a background on the work of Larry Cohen. We discuss the sort of surprise success of the film, especially given the studios reluctance to release the film given the somewhat controversial subject as well as the successful marketing campaign for the film.

The look of the movie, especially the camera work and cinematography, is discussed. Larry Cohen’s undeserved reputation as something of a blackly comic filmmaker is touched upon, as is It’s Alive’s clashing harshly with that. This leads to a discussion on Cohen’s ability to craft films with a deeper message and make that message palatable i.e. consumerism in The Stuff, class conflict in It’s Alive. The performances of the main characters, particularly those of John Ryan and Sharon Farrell, are discussed and examined as being the driving force of the film.

The corrupt nature of business and politics being embodied by the head of a shady company ordering the police to cover up the nature of the crime is discussed. Larry Cohen’s “run and gun” style is discussed, i.e. his disregard for obtaining permits to film in locations. His success as a director who can get great performances out of actors is discussed.

Up next is 1982’s Q: The Winged Serpent. We begin by giving a brief summation of the plot of the film. The blasé attitude of the police towards the cause of the ritual murders instead of the creature doing them is discussed.

Larry Cohen’s disregard for proper permits is again discussed, in regards to the climax of the film in which dozens of cops fire hundreds of blank rounds from atop the Chrysler Building unbeknownst to the citizens of New York City who had no idea a film was being shot but instead though a terrorist attack was happening.

Michael Moriarty’s stellar performance is deeply examined, especially how he perfectly embodies the “loveable loser” archetype.

Larry Cohen’s portrayal of New York City is discussed, with a comparison being made to Frank Henenlotter and Abel Ferrara. The nature of the visual effects, in that they are largely successful but when they fail they fail badly, is discussed.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, Alexis, and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the most excellent and rad podcast in the land. We have one awesome episode in store for you guys. On this episode we’re discussing a small sampling of the films of the great Larry Cohen: 1974’s It’s Alive and 1982’s Q: The Winged Serpent. There were some minor audio issues this episode so we apologize in advance!

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam discusses his recent venture to Chicago to attend the annual Cinepocalypse Festival where he was lucky enough to interview Eric Roberts for his other podcast Eric Roberts Is The Fucking Man. This ties in with this episode Liam was also fortunate enough to mingle with the likes of Larry Cohen out in Chicago.

Liam also discusses some of the films he saw while in Chicago, including The Lodgers, Lowlife, Snowflake, and Downrange. He also talks about catching the films Hellhouse LLC on Shudder. Justin talks about being misfortunate enough to see the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre film Leatherface that leads into a brief discussion on Stephen Dorff being an underrated actor. The obsession with horror remakes trying to make the villain endearing is briefly touched upon. Justin also talks watching The Vault, and then we briefly talk about Stranger Things and the upcoming adaption of Hellboy.

Up first is 1974’s It’s Alive. We start by giving a background on the work of Larry Cohen. We discuss the sort of surprise success of the film, especially given the studios reluctance to release the film given the somewhat controversial subject as well as the successful marketing campaign for the film.

The look of the movie, especially the camera work and cinematography, is discussed. Larry Cohen’s undeserved reputation as something of a blackly comic filmmaker is touched upon, as is It’s Alive’s clashing harshly with that. This leads to a discussion on Cohen’s ability to craft films with a deeper message and make that message palatable i.e. consumerism in The Stuff, class conflict in It’s Alive. The performances of the main characters, particularly those of John Ryan and Sharon Farrell, are discussed and examined as being the driving force of the film.

The corrupt nature of business and politics being embodied by the head of a shady company ordering the police to cover up the nature of the crime is discussed. Larry Cohen’s “run and gun” style is discussed, i.e. his disregard for obtaining permits to film in locations. His success as a director who can get great performances out of actors is discussed.

Up next is 1982’s Q: The Winged Serpent. We begin by giving a brief summation of the plot of the film. The blasé attitude of the police towards the cause of the ritual murders instead of the creature doing them is discussed.

Larry Cohen’s disregard for proper permits is again discussed, in regards to the climax of the film in which dozens of cops fire hundreds of blank rounds from atop the Chrysler Building unbeknownst to the citizens of New York City who had no idea a film was being shot but instead though a terrorist attack was happening.

Michael Moriarty’s stellar performance is deeply examined, especially how he perfectly embodies the “loveable loser” archetype.

Larry Cohen’s portrayal of New York City is discussed, with a comparison being made to Frank Henenlotter and Abel Fe...

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the most unholy podcast in all the land. In this episode we’re talking two films dealing with teenagers turning to the dark power of Satan to help them find their way in the world: 1982’s Evilspeak and 1989’s 976 Evil. We’re joined on this episode by longtime friend of the podcast and friend in general Andrew McArdle from Washington D.C.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Andrew discusses catching a screening of Ringu in Pittsburgh, Liam talks about attending the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival, and Justin talks about recently watching the Netflix original The Babysitter. Liam and Justin then briefly discuss the recent screening of Get Out at Lafayette University, hosted by Liam himself!

Up first is 1981’s Evilspeak. We begin by giving a basic outline of the plot. We talk about how Clint Howard’s unlikely characterization as a normal sympathetic character in this film. We briefly discuss the dynamics of race in this movie, in that Howard’s character’s only friend is a black student who likely experiences being ostracized at the military academy and feels sympathy for a fellow outcast. The heavily dated portrayal of computers in this movie is discussed.

The task the film has of taking a character that will eventually become the villain and making them initially sympathetic is touched upon, as is the character arc of the bullies who harass Howard’s character and drive him to embracing whatever dark power is behind all of this. The concept of “male rape” and how the hyper masculine and threatening nature of the antagonists plays a heavy part in the how they relate to Howard’s character and how that in turn relates to the films scant portrayal of women as hypersexual objects is discussed. The emphasis of masculinity in the world of magic and Satanism is likewise touched upon.

The sad quality of Howard’s character turning to evil not out of a lust for power or fortune but instead merely to belong in the world is examined, as is the nature in theology of God coming off as the ‘god of the bullies’ while Satan comes off as the ‘god of the underdogs’. The various special effects of the film are talked about, and Liam touches upon the disjointed and nonsensical nature of the chaplain’s sermon in a particularly FX heavy scene. The especially effective climax of the film is examined. The threat of rape against male characters is examined again, as is the sexual overtones of all the attacks on female characters.

Up next we talk 1989’s 976 Evil. We begin by talking about how popular the film was in the early 90’s and how often it was shown on cable TV, as well as how hyped it was due to the involvement of Robert Englund and Stephen Geoffreys. We begin by giving a basic outline of the plot, followed by a brief discussion of the somewhat obsolete phenomenon of the 976 number.

Stephen Geoffreys tendency to play characters who come off as somewhat creepy, whether or not they are sympathetic and still like i.e. Evil Ed from Fright Night, or Hoax in 976 Evil is discussed, as is Geoffreys strength as an actor.

The differences between Hoax and Evil Ed are dissected. The difference between Howard’s character in Evilspeak and Geoffreys’ character in 976 Evil are discussed, especially in the difference that Geoffreys is unsettling and off the whole time as opposed to Howard who has to be seduced and lured into embracing evil. Some of the horrific imagery of the film is touched upon, as is the concept of the entitled ‘nice guy’ that Geoffreys embodies in this movie.

The possibility of the film having homoerotic overtones similar to Fright Night is discussed i.e. Hoax seeing his cousin as the male ideal and his lusting after that possibly transmuting into lusting after his cousin himself. The satisfying nature of the climax, despite the choppy and uneven nature of the rest of the film, is examined. The depiction of the punk subculture in the film, and the depiction of punk in Hollywood as a whole, is discussed.

Special thanks to Andrew for joining us for this episode and for recommending both of these films. If you yourself ever want to recommend stuff for us to watch or even appear on an episode, let us know! As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh “Cooperdick” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris, Brad, and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the most unholy podcast in all the land. In this episode we’re talking two films dealing with teenagers turning to the dark power of Satan to help them find their way in the world: 1982’s Evilspeak and 1989’s 976 Evil. We’re joined on this episode by longtime friend of the podcast and friend in general Andrew McArdle from Washington D.C.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Andrew discusses catching a screening of Ringu in Pittsburgh, Liam talks about attending the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival, and Justin talks about recently watching the Netflix original The Babysitter. Liam and Justin then briefly discuss the recent screening of Get Out at Lafayette University, hosted by Liam himself!

Up first is 1981’s Evilspeak. We begin by giving a basic outline of the plot. We talk about how Clint Howard’s unlikely characterization as a normal sympathetic character in this film. We briefly discuss the dynamics of race in this movie, in that Howard’s character’s only friend is a black student who likely experiences being ostracized at the military academy and feels sympathy for a fellow outcast. The heavily dated portrayal of computers in this movie is discussed.

The task the film has of taking a character that will eventually become the villain and making them initially sympathetic is touched upon, as is the character arc of the bullies who harass Howard’s character and drive him to embracing whatever dark power is behind all of this. The concept of “male rape” and how the hyper masculine and threatening nature of the antagonists plays a heavy part in the how they relate to Howard’s character and how that in turn relates to the films scant portrayal of women as hypersexual objects is discussed. The emphasis of masculinity in the world of magic and Satanism is likewise touched upon.

The sad quality of Howard’s character turning to evil not out of a lust for power or fortune but instead merely to belong in the world is examined, as is the nature in theology of God coming off as the ‘god of the bullies’ while Satan comes off as the ‘god of the underdogs’. The various special effects of the film are talked about, and Liam touches upon the disjointed and nonsensical nature of the chaplain’s sermon in a particularly FX heavy scene. The especially effective climax of the film is examined. The threat of rape against male characters is examined again, as is the sexual overtones of all the attacks on female characters.

Up next we talk 1989’s 976 Evil. We begin by talking about how popular the film was in the early 90’s and how often it was shown on cable TV, as well as how hyped it was due to the involvement of Robert Englund and Stephen Geoffreys. We begin by giving a basic outline of the plot, followed by a brief discussion of the somewhat obsolete phenomenon of the 976 number.

Stephen Geoffreys tendency to play characters who come off as somewhat creepy, whether or not they are sympathetic and still like i.e. Evil Ed from Fright Night, or Hoax in 976 Evil is discussed, as is Geoffreys strength as an actor.

The differences between Hoax and Evil Ed are dissected. The difference between Howard’s character in Evilspeak and Geoffreys’ character in 976 Evil are discussed, especially in the difference that Geoffreys is unsettling and off the whole time as opposed to Howard who has to be seduced and lure...

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the most unholy podcast in all the land. In this episode we’re talking two films dealing with teenagers turning to the dark power of Satan to help them find their way in the world: 1982’s Evilspeak and 1989’s 976 Evil. We’re joined on this episode by longtime friend of the podcast and friend in general Andrew McArdle from Washington D.C.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Andrew discusses catching a screening of Ringu in Pittsburgh, Liam talks about attending the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival, and Justin talks about recently watching the Netflix original The Babysitter. Liam and Justin then briefly discuss the recent screening of Get Out at Lafayette University, hosted by Liam himself!

Up first is 1981’s Evilspeak. We begin by giving a basic outline of the plot. We talk about how Clint Howard’s unlikely characterization as a normal sympathetic character in this film. We briefly discuss the dynamics of race in this movie, in that Howard’s character’s only friend is a black student who likely experiences being ostracized at the military academy and feels sympathy for a fellow outcast. The heavily dated portrayal of computers in this movie is discussed.

The task the film has of taking a character that will eventually become the villain and making them initially sympathetic is touched upon, as is the character arc of the bullies who harass Howard’s character and drive him to embracing whatever dark power is behind all of this. The concept of “male rape” and how the hyper masculine and threatening nature of the antagonists plays a heavy part in the how they relate to Howard’s character and how that in turn relates to the films scant portrayal of women as hypersexual objects is discussed. The emphasis of masculinity in the world of magic and Satanism is likewise touched upon.

The sad quality of Howard’s character turning to evil not out of a lust for power or fortune but instead merely to belong in the world is examined, as is the nature in theology of God coming off as the ‘god of the bullies’ while Satan comes off as the ‘god of the underdogs’. The various special effects of the film are talked about, and Liam touches upon the disjointed and nonsensical nature of the chaplain’s sermon in a particularly FX heavy scene. The especially effective climax of the film is examined. The threat of rape against male characters is examined again, as is the sexual overtones of all the attacks on female characters.

Up next we talk 1989’s 976 Evil. We begin by talking about how popular the film was in the early 90’s and how often it was shown on cable TV, as well as how hyped it was due to the involvement of Robert Englund and Stephen Geoffreys. We begin by giving a basic outline of the plot, followed by a brief discussion of the somewhat obsolete phenomenon of the 976 number.

Stephen Geoffreys tendency to play characters who come off as somewhat creepy, whether or not they are sympathetic and still like i.e. Evil Ed from Fright Night, or Hoax in 976 Evil is discussed, as is Geoffreys strength as an actor.

The differences between Hoax and Evil Ed are dissected. The difference between Howard’s character in Evilspeak and Geoffreys’ character in 976 Evil are discussed, especially in the difference that Geoffreys is unsettling and off the whole time as opposed to Howard who has to be seduced and lure...