Horror Business

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that’s in the goddamn club isn’t it? In this episode we’re talking the films of Fred Dekker, specifically Monster Squad and Night Of The Creeps. We’re joined on this episode by fellow Cinepunk and longtime friend Evan Vellela.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Evan talks about working a Gogol Bordello show in Philly, which is followed by a brief discussion on Liam and Evan’s understanding of Romany culture in South Philly. Evan also discusses watching a film in the Coffin Joe trilogy, as well as some recent purchases from Amoeba in LA and his fascination with the YouTube series Hot Ones. Liam discusses his recent viewings of Lips Of Blood, The Living Dead Girl, as well as needing to watch Fascination and rewatching Tourist Trap. Justin talks about watching The Other Side Of The Door, seeing The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 at the Mahoning Drive In, Monster Mania Con, and catching a George Romero triple feature in Philadelphia. Liam and Justin briefly discuss Darren Aranofsky’s mother! and then discuss The Walking Dead with Evan. We then talk about our choices for the ideal Halloween movie marathons.

Up first is 1986’s Night Of The Creeps. We open up by talking about the film was a financial disaster but ultimately ended gaining an actual cult following. We follow by giving a brief plot summary. We discuss the homoerotic undertones of the film, JC’s glibness with women as compared to Chris’ awkwardness with them, and the underlying darkness that is in stark contrast to the popular conception of the film as a horror comedy.

Shane Black’s peripheral involvement in this film is touched upon, and John Carpenter’s Elvis biopic is for some reason talked about. The heavy handedness of the films tribute to classic horror as a possible turn off for contemporary audiences is discussed. Liam talks about how this is his favorite of Dekker’s work, and we gush about Tom Atkins for a minute.

The numerous endings of the movie are discussed and the similarities between Slither and Night Of The Creeps is touched upon. Justin talks about what he doesn’t like about the movie, and we talk about this film is a great example of a 1980S HORROR FILM archetype.

Evan and Justin piss Liam off by talking about the way their college experience compares to JC and Chris’.

Up next we talk 1987’s Monster Squad. We talk about how Liam Neeson was supposed to be in the film and how Shane Black’s original script included a much bigger opening scene.

Evan talks about his first exposure to the film, and we discuss how weird it was that there as a period in time when this film was not very well known despite now being considered a cult classic. Justin talks about finding it when it came out on DVD for the first time, and how despite being scared of the Wolfman as a child he is now far more scared of the Gillman.

Justin tells a weird stupid story from his childhood about misunderstanding something from this movie. The creature design of the movie is touched upon, and Liam points out that this film, like The Goonies, is one that despite being very much about childhood is not necessarily a film one would want to show to a child due to examples of “80s style” misogyny and homophobia.

The subtle darkness of the film i.e. “Scary German Guy” being a Holocaust survivor, the discussion of divorce and how it impacts children, and Dracula’s intent to kill children is examined. The need for a sequel to the film is discussed, as is how the film could be amazing if remade by the right filmmaker.

The phenomenon of ‘80s horror films being about children experiencing horrible things is touched upon, as are the similarities between this film and It, as well as similarities between it and Ghostbusters. The impact the film has had on the three of us is discussed, in that it shaped our taste in movies early on and inspired us to seek out other horror films.

Special thanks to Evan for joining us for this episode and being a good sport while we fucked with him.

 

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the shirts and fliers (you can check more of his work out at here), and also thanks to Josh “Dr. Do Big” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts, some ultra stylish Cinepunx related merchandise, and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that’s in the goddamn club isn’t it? In this episode we’re talking the films of Fred Dekker, specifically Monster Squad and Night Of The Creeps. We’re joined on this episode by fellow Cinepunk and longtime friend Evan Vellela.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Evan talks about working a Gogol Bordello show in Philly, which is followed by a brief discussion on Liam and Evan’s understanding of Romany culture in South Philly. Evan also discusses watching a film in the Coffin Joe trilogy, as well as some recent purchases from Amoeba in LA and his fascination with the YouTube series Hot Ones. Liam discusses his recent viewings of Lips Of Blood, The Living Dead Girl, as well as needing to watch Fascination and rewatching Tourist Trap. Justin talks about watching The Other Side Of The Door, seeing The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 at the Mahoning Drive In, Monster Mania Con, and catching a George Romero triple feature in Philadelphia. Liam and Justin briefly discuss Darren Aranofsky’s mother! and then discuss The Walking Dead with Evan. We then talk about our choices for the ideal Halloween movie marathons.

Up first is 1986’s Night Of The Creeps. We open up by talking about the film was a financial disaster but ultimately ended gaining an actual cult following. We follow by giving a brief plot summary. We discuss the homoerotic undertones of the film, JC’s glibness with women as compared to Chris’ awkwardness with them, and the underlying darkness that is in stark contrast to the popular conception of the film as a horror comedy.

Shane Black’s peripheral involvement in this film is touched upon, and John Carpenter’s Elvis biopic is for some reason talked about. The heavy handedness of the films tribute to classic horror as a possible turn off for contemporary audiences is discussed. Liam talks about how this is his favorite of Dekker’s work, and we gush about Tom Atkins for a minute.

The numerous endings of the movie are discussed and the similarities between Slither and Night Of The Creeps is touched upon. Justin talks about what he doesn’t like about the movie, and we talk about this film is a great example of a 1980S HORROR FILM archetype.

Evan and Justin piss Liam off by talking about the way their college experience compares to JC and Chris’.

Up next we talk 1987’s Monster Squad. We talk about how Liam Neeson was supposed to be in the film and how Shane Black’s original script included a much bigger opening scene.

Evan talks about his first exposure to the film, and we discuss how weird it was that there as a period in time when this film was not very well known despite now being considered a cult classic. Justin talks about finding it when it came out on DVD for the first time, and how despite being scared of the Wolfman as a child he is now far more scared of the Gillman.

Justin tells a weird stupid story from his childhood about misunderstanding something from this movie. The creature design of the movie is touched upon, and Liam points out that this film, like The Goonies, is one that despite being very much about childhood is not necessarily a film one would want to show to a child due to examples of “80s style” misogyny and homophobia.

The subtle darkness of the film i.e. “Scary German Guy” being a Holocaust survivor,

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that’s in the goddamn club isn’t it? In this episode we’re talking the films of Fred Dekker, specifically Monster Squad and Night Of The Creeps. We’re joined on this episode by fellow Cinepunk and longtime friend Evan Vellela.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Evan talks about working a Gogol Bordello show in Philly, which is followed by a brief discussion on Liam and Evan’s understanding of Romany culture in South Philly. Evan also discusses watching a film in the Coffin Joe trilogy, as well as some recent purchases from Amoeba in LA and his fascination with the YouTube series Hot Ones. Liam discusses his recent viewings of Lips Of Blood, The Living Dead Girl, as well as needing to watch Fascination and rewatching Tourist Trap. Justin talks about watching The Other Side Of The Door, seeing The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 at the Mahoning Drive In, Monster Mania Con, and catching a George Romero triple feature in Philadelphia. Liam and Justin briefly discuss Darren Aranofsky’s mother! and then discuss The Walking Dead with Evan. We then talk about our choices for the ideal Halloween movie marathons.

Up first is 1986’s Night Of The Creeps. We open up by talking about the film was a financial disaster but ultimately ended gaining an actual cult following. We follow by giving a brief plot summary. We discuss the homoerotic undertones of the film, JC’s glibness with women as compared to Chris’ awkwardness with them, and the underlying darkness that is in stark contrast to the popular conception of the film as a horror comedy.

Shane Black’s peripheral involvement in this film is touched upon, and John Carpenter’s Elvis biopic is for some reason talked about. The heavy handedness of the films tribute to classic horror as a possible turn off for contemporary audiences is discussed. Liam talks about how this is his favorite of Dekker’s work, and we gush about Tom Atkins for a minute.

The numerous endings of the movie are discussed and the similarities between Slither and Night Of The Creeps is touched upon. Justin talks about what he doesn’t like about the movie, and we talk about this film is a great example of a 1980S HORROR FILM archetype.

Evan and Justin piss Liam off by talking about the way their college experience compares to JC and Chris’.

Up next we talk 1987’s Monster Squad. We talk about how Liam Neeson was supposed to be in the film and how Shane Black’s original script included a much bigger opening scene.

Evan talks about his first exposure to the film, and we discuss how weird it was that there as a period in time when this film was not very well known despite now being considered a cult classic. Justin talks about finding it when it came out on DVD for the first time, and how despite being scared of the Wolfman as a child he is now far more scared of the Gillman.

Justin tells a weird stupid story from his childhood about misunderstanding something from this movie. The creature design of the movie is touched upon, and Liam points out that this film, like The Goonies, is one that despite being very much about childhood is not necessarily a film one would want to show to a child due to examples of “80s style” misogyny and homophobia.

The subtle darkness of the film i.e. “Scary German Guy” being a Holocaust survivor,

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that on which everything floats…and now that you’re here with us, you’ll float too.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We apologize in advance for the sound quality of this episode at times, as we had an issue with the Skype connection.

This episode we are joined by Brendan Foley of Black Sun Dispatches and our first returning guest John Wren of The Mandate (both of which are available at www.cinepunx.com) to help us tackle Andy Muschietti’s recent cinematic interpretation of Stephen King’s magnum opus: It.

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Brendan talks about his recent rewatching of An American Werewolf In London for Cinapse’s Two Cents feature, and John talks about his rewatching of the Evil Dead trilogy. Justin is lame as hell and hasn’t done anything, but Liam discusses watching Paranorman with his daughter!

We open up by discussing our first introduction to Stephen King’s novel and the 1990 miniseries. Justin has already talked about his feelings on It in this piece he wrote for Cinepunx and the review he wrote for It as well as the episode of Test Patterns he wrote into the matter, so we don’t need to hear from him at all on the matter. Brendan talks about reading the book for the first time in middle school and how it was his introduction to horror, but also admits to not revering the book the way many King fans (like Justin) do. He discusses the shortcomings of some of King’s longer works, and how often King does best when he’s writing short and streamlined works. John talks about how he read the book relatively early on as well, as it was introduced to him by an uncle who got him into Stephen King. He talks about how in his opinion It is the best representation of Stephen King, and how the book actually magnifies many of King’s strength as a writer. Justin briefly talks about how the weird cosmic Lovecraftian stuff at the end of It was actually what sold him totally on the book, and how Bill Denbrough’s dream at the end of leaving Derry for the first time is an incredibly powerful scene for him. There is some discussion on King’s style vs. Lovecraft, in that King falls short of Lovecraft in that he explains too much and it loses some of it’s impact. Liam tells a very tender and personal story on his introduction to It that you need to listen to and won’t be summarized here. He also talks about how he realized only recently how deeply the book affected him as a person. There’s talk about how Muschietti’s version of the film failed to grasp the deep racism that is present in King’s novel and how that racism is essential to Henry’s relationship with Mike Hanlon.

We begin the actual discussion of the movie with John talking about how this movie went above and beyond his expectations. John briefly discusses his distaste for remakes, and how Muschietti went about remaking It the way they ought to be done. We talk about how John came around on this movie, and how one of his biggest problems with the film was the lack of Eddie Corcoran’s death. We talk briefly about the effectiveness of Eddie’s death in the book. We talk about some of the stuff Muschietti changed from the book, especially how Stan is kind of the focus of It’s activity and how that may use that focus to explain why Stan makes the choices he may or may not make in chapter 2. Muschietti’s choice in keeping Bill Skarsgard separate from the Losers in order to harbor a true fear in their reactions in coming face to face with Pennywise for the first time.

Brendan talks about how he has no affection for the original miniseries and thus had no real vested interest in going all in on this version of the story. He talks about how while Tim Curry is fine it’s a bad take for Pennywise, and how he was relieved Muschietti didn’t ‘neuter’ the story for the big screen. He talks about how while the characters of Eddie and Richie can be a bit much at times, in the end they have a perfect balance of annoying and endearing, and how these characters excel where children in horror movies often fail.

Liam jumps in to talk about the hype around this movie and how it doesn’t do the movie any justice, as well as the apparent hesitance on some to just call this film a horror movie as opposed to calling it something other than horror (post horror, a psychological thriller, etc.). He talks about the pacing and how it was a bit offsetting at times. He discusses how he would have preferred the story to be broken up into a short season of a TV show instead of a full-length film. Liam discusses the idea of the adults of Derry being human monsters, and the ‘is Derry bad because of It or does It like Derry because Derry is bad?’ idea is touched upon.

 

Justin talks about the look of Pennywise, the change from the novel in which Bill is unaware that George is dead and is merely missing. The graphic detail of George’s death in the movie is discussed. The merit of there not a sort of mystical ritual in this film i.e. King’s Ritual of Chud, and how Muschietti’s version in which the Losers simply overcome their fears and “starve” It to defeat it is discussed. The acting of the Losers Club is discussed, in which we all agree that getting seven great child actors is quite impressive. Jaeden Lieberher’s convincing stutter is briefly touched up. We again talk about the concept of Derry’s ‘comfort’ with It’s existence, in that there is a sizeable amount of the population who is aware that something is wrong with the town but is comfortable looking away.

King’s latent humanism and Christianity and how it shows in his work, i.e. how King tends to make his characters naturally good who only become bad through the influence of some external evil, is discussed. King’s portrayal of small towns having an unsavory underbelly is discussed, and Derry being the quintessential example of that. Brendan argues that this is something of a weak point for King, as it often lets his characters off the hook.

Justin talks about what he doesn’t like about the film, including the throwaway deaths of Patrick Hockstetter and Eddie Corcoran, the lack of characterization for the bullies, and the poor portrayal of Henry Bowers. Bev being the damsel in distress is discussed, and the needlessness of it as well as how it would have made sense for Stan to actually be the one who needs to be rescued. The lack of characterization for Mike Hanlon is touched upon. Liam briefly talks about how the TV always saying weird macabre stuff about the sewer is quite effective.

We read some of the stuff people wrote into us, including Jacob from the Test Patterns podcast, Andrew and Elbee from Got Me A Movie, and several others.

Special thanks to Brendan and John for joining us for this episode and picking this movie apart. We are eternally grateful to be associated with such talent. You can check out both of their podcasts at www.cinepunx.com. As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also thanks to Josh “Dr. Do Big” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Also thanks to anyone who wrote in for this episode with their opinions on It (you can check out Jacob’s podcast HERE…they recently did a series of episodes on the cultural impact of It and they’re all amazing) Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that on which everything floats…and now that you’re here with us, you’ll float too.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We apologize in advance for the sound quality of this episode at times, as we had an issue with the Skype connection.

This episode we are joined by Brendan Foley of Black Sun Dispatches and our first returning guest John Wren of The Mandate (both of which are available at www.cinepunx.com) to help us tackle Andy Muschietti’s recent cinematic interpretation of Stephen King’s magnum opus: It.

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Brendan talks about his recent rewatching of An American Werewolf In London for Cinapse’s Two Cents feature, and John talks about his rewatching of the Evil Dead trilogy. Justin is lame as hell and hasn’t done anything, but Liam discusses watching Paranorman with his daughter!

We open up by discussing our first introduction to Stephen King’s novel and the 1990 miniseries. Justin has already talked about his feelings on It in this piece he wrote for Cinepunx and the review he wrote for It as well as the episode of Test Patterns he wrote into the matter, so we don’t need to hear from him at all on the matter. Brendan talks about reading the book for the first time in middle school and how it was his introduction to horror, but also admits to not revering the book the way many King fans (like Justin) do. He discusses the shortcomings of some of King’s longer works, and how often King does best when he’s writing short and streamlined works. John talks about how he read the book relatively early on as well, as it was introduced to him by an uncle who got him into Stephen King. He talks about how in his opinion It is the best representation of Stephen King, and how the book actually magnifies many of King’s strength as a writer. Justin briefly talks about how the weird cosmic Lovecraftian stuff at the end of It was actually what sold him totally on the book, and how Bill Denbrough’s dream at the end of leaving Derry for the first time is an incredibly powerful scene for him. There is some discussion on King’s style vs. Lovecraft, in that King falls short of Lovecraft in that he explains too much and it loses some of it’s impact. Liam tells a very tender and personal story on his introduction to It that you need to listen to and won’t be summarized here. He also talks about how he realized only recently how deeply the book affected him as a person. There’s talk about how Muschietti’s version of the film failed to grasp the deep racism that is present in King’s novel and how that racism is essential to Henry’s relationship with Mike Hanlon.

We begin the actual discussion of the movie with John talking about how this movie went above and beyond his expectations. John briefly discusses his distaste for remakes, and how Muschietti went about remaking It the way they ought to be done. We talk about how John came around on this movie, and how one of his biggest problems with the film was the lack of Eddie Corcoran’s death. We talk briefly about the effectiveness of Eddie’s death in the book. We talk about some of the stuff Muschietti changed from the book,

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business, the podcast that on which everything floats…and now that you’re here with us, you’ll float too.

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

We apologize in advance for the sound quality of this episode at times, as we had an issue with the Skype connection.

This episode we are joined by Brendan Foley of Black Sun Dispatches and our first returning guest John Wren of The Mandate (both of which are available at www.cinepunx.com) to help us tackle Andy Muschietti’s recent cinematic interpretation of Stephen King’s magnum opus: It.

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Brendan talks about his recent rewatching of An American Werewolf In London for Cinapse’s Two Cents feature, and John talks about his rewatching of the Evil Dead trilogy. Justin is lame as hell and hasn’t done anything, but Liam discusses watching Paranorman with his daughter!

We open up by discussing our first introduction to Stephen King’s novel and the 1990 miniseries. Justin has already talked about his feelings on It in this piece he wrote for Cinepunx and the review he wrote for It as well as the episode of Test Patterns he wrote into the matter, so we don’t need to hear from him at all on the matter. Brendan talks about reading the book for the first time in middle school and how it was his introduction to horror, but also admits to not revering the book the way many King fans (like Justin) do. He discusses the shortcomings of some of King’s longer works, and how often King does best when he’s writing short and streamlined works. John talks about how he read the book relatively early on as well, as it was introduced to him by an uncle who got him into Stephen King. He talks about how in his opinion It is the best representation of Stephen King, and how the book actually magnifies many of King’s strength as a writer. Justin briefly talks about how the weird cosmic Lovecraftian stuff at the end of It was actually what sold him totally on the book, and how Bill Denbrough’s dream at the end of leaving Derry for the first time is an incredibly powerful scene for him. There is some discussion on King’s style vs. Lovecraft, in that King falls short of Lovecraft in that he explains too much and it loses some of it’s impact. Liam tells a very tender and personal story on his introduction to It that you need to listen to and won’t be summarized here. He also talks about how he realized only recently how deeply the book affected him as a person. There’s talk about how Muschietti’s version of the film failed to grasp the deep racism that is present in King’s novel and how that racism is essential to Henry’s relationship with Mike Hanlon.

We begin the actual discussion of the movie with John talking about how this movie went above and beyond his expectations. John briefly discusses his distaste for remakes, and how Muschietti went about remaking It the way they ought to be done. We talk about how John came around on this movie, and how one of his biggest problems with the film was the lack of Eddie Corcoran’s death. We talk briefly about the effectiveness of Eddie’s death in the book. We talk about some of the stuff Muschietti changed from the book,

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business! We have got one creepy crawly episode in store you guys. As always thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the episode!

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

This episode we are CONCLUDING our multi-episode series on the concept of animal horror, with 1988’s Slugs and 1972’s Frogs

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam talks about catching Lady .45 at the Mahoning Drive In’s Lethal Ladies event and watching Cooties. Justin discusses his experiences at Monster Mania Con in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. Woo!

Up first we talk about 1988’s Slugs. We open up by talking about the lunacy that is the fact that this is based on a novel.

We give a basic outline of the film. We discuss the difficulty in making the titular animals threatening and how the film oftentimes fails to believably do so. We talk about the strange language barrier often found in films in the English language written by people who do not consider English their primary language.

We talk about the surprising effectiveness of some of the films special effects and how the ending suffers from the same problem that Pirahna suffered from.

The pointlessness of the near rape that occurs towards the end is examined in depth.

Next is 1972’s Frogs. We discuss this movie possibly being the quintessential ‘when animals attack’ film.

We talk about the variety of animals attacking people in the film that aren’t frogs, and how the island the film takes place on harbors an insane variety of wildlife.

The social/racial/economic implications of the film are dissected in depth i.e. how the film portrays capitalism and offers a rather bleak version of a capitalist view on the environment.

The films depiction of a wealthy white family being a far more accurate representation of the voting base for Trump is examined. The fx and over quality of the film are discussed, as is Sam Elliott’s lack of a mustache.

We end by talking about Victor Salva, the convicted pedophile who is known for creating the Jeepers Creepers franchise and whose name has resurfaced with the upcoming release of Jeepers Creepers 3. Do not support Victor Salva, and if you want to watch some fun cheesy horror films, instead of going to see Jeepers Creepers 3, just watch these movies. Or see It twice. Or do literally anything other than support Victor Salva.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also thanks to Josh “Iron Fist” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business! We have got one creepy crawly episode in store you guys. As always thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the episode!

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

This episode we are CONCLUDING our multi-episode series on the concept of animal horror, with 1988’s Slugs and 1972’s Frogs

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam talks about catching Lady .45 at the Mahoning Drive In’s Lethal Ladies event and watching Cooties. Justin discusses his experiences at Monster Mania Con in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. Woo!

Up first we talk about 1988’s Slugs. We open up by talking about the lunacy that is the fact that this is based on a novel.

We give a basic outline of the film. We discuss the difficulty in making the titular animals threatening and how the film oftentimes fails to believably do so. We talk about the strange language barrier often found in films in the English language written by people who do not consider English their primary language.

We talk about the surprising effectiveness of some of the films special effects and how the ending suffers from the same problem that Pirahna suffered from.

The pointlessness of the near rape that occurs towards the end is examined in depth.

Next is 1972’s Frogs. We discuss this movie possibly being the quintessential ‘when animals attack’ film.

We talk about the variety of animals attacking people in the film that aren’t frogs, and how the island the film takes place on harbors an insane variety of wildlife.

The social/racial/economic implications of the film are dissected in depth i.e. how the film portrays capitalism and offers a rather bleak version of a capitalist view on the environment.

The films depiction of a wealthy white family being a far more accurate representation of the voting base for Trump is examined. The fx and over quality of the film are discussed, as is Sam Elliott’s lack of a mustache.

We end by talking about Victor Salva, the convicted pedophile who is known for creating the Jeepers Creepers franchise and whose name has resurfaced with the upcoming release of Jeepers Creepers 3. Do not support Victor Salva, and if you want to watch some fun cheesy horror films, instead of going to see Jeepers Creepers 3, just watch these movies. Or see It twice. Or do literally anything other than support Victor Salva.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also thanks to Josh “Iron Fist” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review,

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business! We have got one creepy crawly episode in store you guys. As always thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the episode!

First and foremost we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

This episode we are CONCLUDING our multi-episode series on the concept of animal horror, with 1988’s Slugs and 1972’s Frogs

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam talks about catching Lady .45 at the Mahoning Drive In’s Lethal Ladies event and watching Cooties. Justin discusses his experiences at Monster Mania Con in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. Woo!

Up first we talk about 1988’s Slugs. We open up by talking about the lunacy that is the fact that this is based on a novel.

We give a basic outline of the film. We discuss the difficulty in making the titular animals threatening and how the film oftentimes fails to believably do so. We talk about the strange language barrier often found in films in the English language written by people who do not consider English their primary language.

We talk about the surprising effectiveness of some of the films special effects and how the ending suffers from the same problem that Pirahna suffered from.

The pointlessness of the near rape that occurs towards the end is examined in depth.

Next is 1972’s Frogs. We discuss this movie possibly being the quintessential ‘when animals attack’ film.

We talk about the variety of animals attacking people in the film that aren’t frogs, and how the island the film takes place on harbors an insane variety of wildlife.

The social/racial/economic implications of the film are dissected in depth i.e. how the film portrays capitalism and offers a rather bleak version of a capitalist view on the environment.

The films depiction of a wealthy white family being a far more accurate representation of the voting base for Trump is examined. The fx and over quality of the film are discussed, as is Sam Elliott’s lack of a mustache.

We end by talking about Victor Salva, the convicted pedophile who is known for creating the Jeepers Creepers franchise and whose name has resurfaced with the upcoming release of Jeepers Creepers 3. Do not support Victor Salva, and if you want to watch some fun cheesy horror films, instead of going to see Jeepers Creepers 3, just watch these movies. Or see It twice. Or do literally anything other than support Victor Salva.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also thanks to Josh “Iron Fist” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review,

Greetings, and welcome back to Horror Business! We have got one WILD episode in store you guys. As always thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the episode!

First and foremost, we want to give a shoutout to our sponsors over at Lehigh Valley Apparel Creations, the premiere screenprinting company of the Lehigh Valley. Chris Reject and his merry band of miscreants are ready to work with you to bring to life your vision of a tshirt for your business, band, project, or whatever else it is you need represented by a shirt, sweater, pin, or coozy. Head on over to www.xlvacx.com to check them out. Thanks!

This episode we are continuing our series on the concept of animal horror, with two films from 1972: Night Of 1000 Cats and Pigs.

We begin by talking about what horror related things we had done lately. Liam talks about the recent 3-D film festival 3D DEMENTIA by Exhumed Films he went to, and Justin talks about seeing Annabelle: Origin, seeing Jaws at the Frank Banko Ale House in Bethlehem, and viewing The Devil’s Candy and Green Inferno.

Up first we talk about 1972’s Night Of 1000 Cats. We begin by pointing out that unlike the other films we’ve covered for this series, both films in this episode do not feature the titular animals as the main antagonists, but are instead titled as such for ease of marketing.

We then briefly discuss Hugo Stiglitz’s career, and how his character in this film is an extension of the character he often plays. We talk about the varying cuts of the film and how those different cuts affect the perception of the film.

The basic plot of the film is given, and criticism of the poor cutting of the film is discussed. The treatment of the animals in the film is discussed, as is Hugo’s relationship with his sidekick Gorgo.

How the film treats pathological disorders related to compulsive killing is discussed. Finally, we talk about that while the cats are not heavily featured as antagonists, they are used to portray the mental state of the character of Hugo in that he is often times on the verge of frenzy, and his psychosis is something struggling to get out.

Next is 1972’s Pigs. We talk about the film's numerous titles, and how each title was done in an attempt to cash in on some cinematic trend or another by adding or deleting scenes after the film had been initially released.

We give a basic plot outline of the version we saw, and discuss the surprising quality of the film given the production value. We talk about how the film could actually be two separate films, given the two main plotlines actually being whole in and of themselves. The acting, cinematography, and soundtrack are briefly touched upon.

We talk about the main characters remaining largely sympathetic throughout the film, while the murder victims being surprisingly unsympathetic.

As with the first film, we talk about how the state of the titular animals is used to portray an internal mental state of the characters.

As always thanks to everyone and anyone who checked this episode out, or shared a tweet/shared a post on FB/gave us love by recommending us to someone. We love you forever for listening. Any questions, comments, suggestions for movies and guests, or if you yourself want to join us for a movie viewing or even an episode, can be sent to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you! Thanks always to Justin Miller and Doug Tilley for their technical contributions and fliers, Mike Smaczylo for the awesome fliers, and also thanks to Josh “877 Cash Now” Alvarez for the theme song, Chris and LVAC for the support and buttons (check them out at www.xlvacx.com), and a HUGE thank you to anyone who retweeted us or shared something on Facebook that we posted. Also, a very special thank you to Jeff Thibault for hooking us up with a bumper from the great Jeffrey Coombs this past weekend at Monster Mania Con. Follow us on Twitter at @thehorrorbiz666, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thehorrorbiz66, and remember to rate, review, and subscribe to us on ITunes. In fact, if you write us a review, email us with your mailing address and we’ll send you some free pins and stickers! Check out www.cinepunx.com for more info on some of our other podcasts and how you can donate to our Patreon! Until next time…thanks!