EF Dodd dated a guy from a distance in pre-FaceTime days. Jenay had a relationship that started in Idaho and ended with him overseas. And both women found ways to keep things spicy, challenges and all. (And yes, dirty talk played an important role!)

This episode also features Dr. Megan Fleming's thoughts for a listener who feels uncomfortable, yet curious, about dirty talk, and August's favorite tip.

To learn more about EF and her latest novel, Almost Perfect, visit efdoddwrites.com.

For more from Jenay, check out her podcast, My Naked Mindset.

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