Dr. John van Willigen, author and practicing anthropologist, emeritus professor of anthropology at UK, talks with Rona about ways food and anthropology intrigue him. He grew up in Wisconsin, eating what he later realized we might now call "ethnic food," from his family's Dutch heritage: split pea soup for pretzel cookie. Later he studied what happened when Kikkoman established soy sauce production in rural Wisconsin, then moved to Arizona and did community organizing among the Papago Tribe of Arizona (now the Tohono O’Odham Nation). John has done field work in in India, rural Kentucky, and Indonesia. He is the author of principal college texts in Applied Anthropology and rapid research, along with a book about Kentucky farm life from 1920-1950, and one about Kentucky's community cookbooks as cues to our history, culture and foodways.