What does it feel like to be “Triplet A” in a family built through surrogacy and two dads? Ben joins us to unpack the moments that shaped him—from a confusing Mother’s Day in grade school to the day his origin story became his favorite icebreaker. Along the way, we revisit the wild odds of a four-embryo transfer resulting in three heartbeats, the high-risk reality of gaining “24 by 24,” and the five NICU weeks that taught everyone patience and presence. The details are vivid and human: milkshakes as a medical strategy, an emergency 32-week C-section while the dads were racing across the country, and a rare level of trust that gave the surrogate open access and a seat at the tarmac when the babies flew home.

We also tackle the big questions people are afraid to ask. Is surrogacy “selling a baby”? How do contracts protect both sides? Why do some states still make legal surrogacy difficult? Ben shares how language and confidence changed his experience over time, and how a late discovery—that an egg donor, not the surrogate, provided the genetics—added a new layer without shaking his sense of self. He talks candidly about future family planning, why surrogacy is a valid first-choice path when needed, and how growing up this way strengthened his values: acceptance, clarity, and care.

Not every journey is perfect. We share one painful story that involved threats and legal action and what it taught us about agency oversight, matching well, and safeguarding mental health. But woven through the conversation is a blueprint for doing surrogacy right: aligned expectations, steady communication, and leadership by love. If you’re searching for real surrogacy stories, LGBTQ+ family-building insights, egg donor clarity, high-risk pregnancy lessons, and what the NICU actually looks like for multiples, this conversation delivers heart and practical guidance.

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