Mark Barabak, columnist at the LA Times, joins Joe and Alex in the first of many 2024 breakdowns -- and this time, it's all about the New West. Of course, the conversation has to start and end with Arizona. But Alex almost immediately derails our state breakdowns after Mark makes the claim Joe's been making for months - why Mark thinks Trump may be weaker than many think. What's going on in states like Colorado and New Mexico? And is the machine that Reid built alive and well in Nevada? And a bonus: Why 20 years ago Joe was secretly going to... Mike Huckabee rallies in Iowa?

Read Mark's series at the Los Angeles Times: https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-06-16/columnist-mark-z-barabak-the-new-west

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