A lot’s changed since the last time we saw Annabelle Gurwitch. Since the actress and writer last appeared on our show back in 2017, she’s been living through the same pandemic as the rest of us, of course, but she’s also gotten divorced, lost her health insurance, had her car repossessed, tried out gig work, and then was diagnosed with lung cancer. In her new book “You’re Leaving When?” Gurwitch discusses downward mobility. We’ll talk with her about it, plus her experience sheltering LA homeless youth in her guest bedroom.

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