Phoenix and Flame Podcast

How Ego Is Sabotaging Your Leadership


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In this episode, Dana is joined by leadership advisor Chris Gillen, who shares his powerful journey of growing up in a family of "professional victims." This experience became the foundation for his work in helping leaders escape what he calls "The Villain Trap"—a destructive cycle of blame that erodes company culture and personal power. Chris reveals how ego prevents us from accepting accountability and how this silent pattern plays out in the workplace. He claims that the next generation of leaders must embrace authenticity, humility, and vulnerability to navigate the massive cultural shifts transforming our world. The Villain Trap Book Chris Gillen's Linkedin

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Phoenix and Flame PodcastBy Dana Skaggs: psychotherapist and keynote speaker

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