In this episode of the The MHP Exchange, Frank Rizzo sits down with Hayden Duer to talk about the real shift in real estate—moving from staying busy to actually owning.

Hayden shares how learning the business from the ground up shaped his approach to investing, why operations and teamwork matter more than most people realize, and what changes once you step into true ownership. This conversation is a grounded look at how real estate wealth is built through knowledge, patience, and execution.