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How Israel Spies on the World – with Antony Loewenstein


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“Israel makes a killing from the occupation,” says journalist Antony Loewenstein in his new book The Palestine Laboratory, which uncovers how Israel has profited off the terror it reigns over Palestinians.
“Israel's military uses the occupied Palestinian territories as a testing ground for weaponry and surveillance technology that they then export around the world to despots and democracies.”
And with this scheme, he explains, Israel is able to genocide three birds with one stone.
First, most obviously, they achieve their goal of control and carnage in Palestine, making the territory unlivable for the indigenous people in an effort to take the land. Second, Israel’s military industrial complex is vastly enriched from the sale of weapons and tech. And third, Israel’s weaponry allows them to to commit mass terror in Gaza:
“After 1967, there were many nations that publicly opposed what Israel was doing, but the insurance policy is that Israel has been selling weapons and surveillance tech to so many countries for so long that those nations were less likely to criticize Israel where it matters, like the UN.”
And the vast extent of this insurance policy is likely greater than we realize.
“No one even knows, by the way, how many countries Israel has sold weapons to. I calculate anywhere between 125 and 145 nations, which is the majority of nations on the planet, have bought some form of Israeli weapons, surveillance tech, or repressive technology.”
But since October 7, Antony explains, Israel’s grip over the world is slipping. Subscribe to hear the full interview in which Antony explains why “Israel is a house of cards,” how companies like Google and Amazon “are directly complicit in potential war crimes,” and why Israel’s potential war on Hezbollah “would make what's happening in Gaza seem like kindergarten.”
00:00 Intro
00:49 ICC wants to arrest Israel: The Four Food Groups of News
20:31 Antony Loewenstein interview
21:38 How Israel exports the technology of occupation
24:24 Israel's insurance policy
28:25 The Palestine laboratory
32:49 Israeli surveillance of Gaza
36:57 How the US uses IDF tactics to silence protesters
43:10 Google and Amazon war crimes?
49:26 What is Israel's goal?
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