For years, we’ve heard mixed messages about alcohol—everything from “A glass of red wine is good for your heart,” or “Everything is fine in moderation,” to “Any amount of alcohol is risky.” But what does science actually say? How does alcohol affect our bodies, and is there such a thing as a healthy amount?

On this episode of the Healthier You podcast, Dr. Ashlee Williams talks with Dr. Joseph Lodato, a board-certified cardiologist at Kaiser Permanente, to explore the latest research, debunk common myths, and learn how much alcohol can help or harm our bodies.