How Music Charts

Over the past few years, Cherie has been a regular contributor to multiple major music business publications, including Forbes, Billboard, NPR Music, Rolling Stone, and many more. While she still has her own column on music and tech for Music Business Worldwide, in early 2019, Cherie also started Water & Music, her own membership community where she uses Patreon, Discord and a weekly newsletter to keep her 8K+ subscribers and 700+ Patrons up to date on the latest innovations in the music industry.

With a pre-college Juilliard diploma in Piano Performance in one hand, and a Harvard BA in Statistics in the other, maybe it’s no wonder that Cherie decided to carve out her career at the intersection of music, data, and technology. Before establishing her writing as a popular must-read, Cherie held internships at Interscope Records, Jamplify, Forbes, and Ticketmaster, alongside even more writing and researching for The Harvard Crimson, Harvard Business School, and NYU. 

In 2017, she became the youngest nominee and winner of the international music business journalist of the year award at the annual Reeperbahn Festival in Hamburg, Germany. Cherie has also been featured as a keynote speaker, moderator and panelist in many high-profile conferences including MIDEM, Primavera Sound, SXSW, IMS Ibiza, DIY Musician Conference, and many more.

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Sophie Chivanova is a consultant for Korean concert promotion company MyMusicTaste, where she was formerly the Head of Europe & the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS, i.e., nine Eurasian countries with Russian as their official language). Founded in 2013 with offices in Korea, Los Angeles, and Moscow, MyMusicTaste has organized concerts for GOT7, MONSTA X, Kehlani, The xx, and many more in 30+ different countries around the world — all based on fan requests.

Having graduated from the National University of Kiev with a BS in Computer Science, the data-driven Chivanova also co-founded and grew two live music companies operating in Russia and wider Europe, giving her more than eight years of experience in the European and Asian markets.

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Sophie Chivanova is a consultant for Korean concert promotion company MyMusicTaste, where she was formerly the Head of Europe & the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS, i.e., nine Eurasian countries with Russian as their official language). Founded in 2013 with offices in Korea, Los Angeles, and Moscow, MyMusicTaste has organized concerts for GOT7, MONSTA X, Kehlani, The xx, and many more in 30+ different countries around the world — all based on fan requests.

Having graduated from the National University of Kiev with a BS in Computer Science, the data-driven Chivanova also co-founded and grew two live music companies operating in Russia and wider Europe, giving her more than eight years of experience in the European and Asian markets.

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Bernie Cho is a music executive with more than 21 years of culture creation in the Asian music, television, and pop culture industries. As President of DFSB Kollective, a Seoul-based independent artist and label services agency that specializes in providing digital media, marketing, and distribution solutions to 600+ Korean Pop music artists, DFSB collaborates with artists and their management to devise customized strategies that directly connect them to their local and global fans. Since 2009, the agency has successfully produced numerous K-Pop concerts/showcases around the world as well as secured No. 1 chart debuts for various K-Pop albums in North America, East Asia, Western Europe, and Australia.

As one of the first and foremost K-Pop music exporters, DFSB Kollective and its artists have been featured speakers/performers at top international music industry events (CMJ, CMW, SXSW, Coachella, The Great Escape, Glastonbury, Summer Sonic, Music Matters, MusicBiz, and MIDEM). Bernie himself has been involved with the startup of six TV channels, two concert series, and one film festival.

A true executive all-rounder, Bernie served as the Head of MTV Korea’s Digital Media Production team and worked for nearly two decades in the Korean music and TV industries as a Creative Planner, Program Producer, and Show Host. Though Bernie has no relation to Chartmetric’s CEO Sung Cho, Bernie is an Advisor for several US and Korean music tech startups, including Chartmetric.

You can listen to Part 1 of this two-part episode here.

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Bernie Cho is a music executive with more than 21 years of culture creation in the Asian music, television, and pop culture industries. As President of DFSB Kollective, a Seoul-based independent artist & label services agency that specializes in providing digital media, marketing, and distribution solutions to 600+ Korean Pop music artists, DFSB collaborates with artists and their management to devise customized strategies that directly connect them to their local and global fans. Since 2009, the agency has successfully produced numerous K-Pop concerts/showcases around the world as well as secured No. 1 chart debuts for various K-Pop albums in North America, East Asia, Western Europe, and Australia.

As one of the first and foremost K-Pop music exporters, DFSB Kollective and its artists have been featured speakers/performers at top international music industry events (CMJ, CMW, SXSW, Coachella, The Great Escape, Glastonbury, Summer Sonic, Music Matters, MusicBiz, MIDEM). Bernie himself has been involved with the startup of 6 TV channels, 2 concert series, and 1 film festival.

A true executive all-rounder, Bernie served as the Head of MTV Korea’s Digital Media Production team and worked for nearly 2 decades in the Korean music & TV industries as a Creative Planner, Program Producer, and Show Host. He has earned a Bachelor’s degree from Dartmouth College in Government/Asian Studies; graduated from the UCLA Anderson - Executive Entertainment & Media Program, and even matriculated from the Foundation Film Program at Vancouver Film School.

Though Bernie has no relation to Chartmetric’s CEO Sung Cho, Bernie is an Advisor for several US & Korean music tech startups, which happens to include Chartmetric.

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On this episode, we chat with former Sony Music Nashville VP of Digital Strategy Ed Rivadavia. Ed is originally from São Paulo, Brazil, but he spent much of his early years in Europe and the United States, learning three languages, other than Portuguese, along the way. Most recently a VP of Digital Strategy at Sony Music Nashville, where he worked with some of the biggest names in Country, Ed has always been — and still is — a metalhead at heart. What’s particularly interesting about Ed’s career is how you can trace the trajectory of the role of marketing in the music industry from radio promotion or “old media” marketing in the ‘90s, to trying to get a handle on ways to use the internet, or “new media,” in the early 2000s, and then to settling in to what we now know as digital marketing and digital strategy in the 2010s. Ed’s global and multi-genre experience imbues his perspective on digital trends in the music industry with nuance and prescience.

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On this episode, we chat with Emily White, a music industry veteran who started her career as a world class tour manager before retiring at 23 to pursue artist management, entrepreneurial endeavors, and academia. Emily has worked with everyone from Dinosaur Jr. to Zac Brown Band, she’s founded and run multiple entertainment companies, released a number of books, and now, when she’s not teaching at NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts, Emily is using music data analytics to help activate voters for the upcoming presidential election in November. The #iVoted initiative, which Emily founded with Madison House co-founder Mike Luba and Wilco’s Pat Sansone, is gearing up to be one of the biggest digital music festivals ever, with dozens of artists performing via webcast nationwide. The cost of admission for fans? A selfie from home with their mail-in ballot or a photo from outside their polling place, though we strongly encourage the former. For a full list of artists performing on Nov. 3, check out iVotedConcerts.com, and full disclaimer: Chartmetric is a proud data partner of the #iVoted initiative.

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Will Page is an economist, a DJ, and most importantly, the biggest supporter of Tynecastle Park’s Heart of Midlothian Football Club #boysinmaroon. A graduate of Scotland’s University of Strathclyde and University of Edinburgh, he began his career as an economist with the Government of Scotland while moonlighting as a music journalist for the Straight No Chaser Magazine.

Soon thereafter, Page became the Chief Economist for the United Kingdom’s largest collection society, PRS for Music. After that, he assumed the same title for Stockholm-based streaming platform Spotify.

Will is now a Fellow at the Royal Society of Arts in London, a Visiting Fellow at the London School of Economics, and a non-Executive Director at music licensing company SoundVault. In what little spare time he has, he’s busy at work on his upcoming book Pivot, which is about digital disruption and the economics behind it.

We discuss:

• His continuing love for soul music, including his DJ mixes on MixCloud and Blackstars of High Life, his documentary on Ghanian Jazz, Afrobeat, and Funk
• His double agent life in his 20s as a Scottish government economist by day and Straight No Chaser music journalist by night
• What economics has to do with the music industry
• His May 2020 Billboard feature, "Peak Streaming: Are We There Yet?"
• His February 2020 Billboard feature, "Is the Music Copyright Business Worth More Than Ever?"
• His quotes in John Thornhill's March 2020 Financial Times op-ed, "How Covid-19 Is Accelerating the Shift From Transport to Teleport"
• His upcoming book on digital disruption, Pivot: Ten Lessons in Tarzan Economics that Help You Navigate Disruption

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Originally from the sunny sprawling suburbs of San Diego, California, after graduating from the University of California, San Diego, Diana Gremore packed up all of her things and moved to New York City, sleeping on a friend’s couch and giving herself just two months to make it in the Big Apple. And she did. For the past three and a half years, Diana has worked at Paradigm (not including the year and a half she was a part of AM Only, which was acquired by Paradigm in 2017), one of the entertainment industry’s most important and highly regarded talent agencies. While she now holds the illustrious title of Business Intelligence Analyst, it’s a role she created for herself, working her way up from receptionist and office manager. But “start small and don’t skip steps” isn’t just an axiom embodied by Diana’s own career, it’s something she encourages artists and their teams to think about when approaching their own growth trajectories — especially during the uncertainty of live music in a post-COVID world.

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