In this episode, Mal is joined by Zoe Branch to talk about how queerness can become a gateway to questioning everything. They explore how living outside the mainstream can give you permission to rethink your career, your relationships, your definition of success, and the rules you’ve been taught to follow. Mal and Zoe also dive into what it really means to decenter men, and how it reshapes friendships with both women and men. 

Follow our guest @zoe.branch or find her work at zoebranch.com, follow the show @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke.

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Plus, don’t miss the YouHaul or YouGhost card game. Perfect for move-ins, breakups, and girls’ nights! Now available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ :) 

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