On today's show, Johnny is joined by the inimitable Salma El-Wardany. A powerful ally, spokesperson and advocate for diversity, Salma is also a recognised poet, writer and broadcaster. Johnny and Salma discuss how those with power and privilege can effectively step up and help those who don't.

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News stories:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/17/sainsburys-defends-christmas-ad-as-shoppers-threaten-to-boycott-store-13606542/

https://www.fastcompany.com/90575394/design-of-hiring-algorithms-can-double-diversity-in-firms

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/boardrooms-now-more-meritocratic-and-diverse-study-suggests/