Sarah welcomes back famed television writer and producer Mike Schur for a record third time. They catch up on their past conversations including the changes in Hollywood as a result of #MeToo and the racial reckoning in the summer of 2020. Then they discuss Mike's new book, "How To Be Perfect" and how his pursuit of living a moral life led to the creation of The Good Place and the realization that he can be really annoying about certain things.

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