Indie Bites

How to build a business you actually enjoy - Natalie Nagele, Wildbit


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Natalie Nagele is the co-founder of Wildbit, the company behind Postmark, Beanstalk, People-First Jobs and more. Wildbit has just turned 20 years old, so Natalie knows exactly what it takes to grow and scale successful bootstrapped businesses. What makes Natalie so interesting to me is that she’s in the group of seriously successful indie hackers (over 100k customers, around for 20 years, pretty large team etc.) and they’re still indie very much living by their own rules.

What we covered in this episode:

  • What would you tell yourself 20 years ago before starting Wildbit?
  • How do you find work that you enjoy and fulfils you?
  • How much time should you spend on hobbies vs your business?
  • At what point is a hobby a business and vice versa?
  • How to get into deep work
    • Cal Newport, Deep Work
  • How many hours you can actually work in a day
  • How much should you work on your business?
  • Why you need to take time to step back and think
  • How much is Natalie working now?
  • How do you fit work in with the stuff you enjoy?
  • Work life balance

Recommendations

  • Book: Anti-fragile
  • Podcast: 99% Invisible
  • Indie Hacker: Chris Savage + Brendan Schwartz

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  • Wildbit

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