In the final edition of our four-part podcast series, produced in partnership with Cascale, formerly the Sustainable Apparel Coalition, we discuss the need for collective action and pre competitive collaboration to deliver real impact. 

Regular host Philip Berman is joined by Joyce Tsoi, senior director of the decarbonization program at Cascale, and Magnus Dorsch, Head of Corporate Sustainability, at online retail portal About You. 

Topics covered

2 minutes What inspires Joyce and Magnus in their work?

4 minutes What is pre-competitive collaboration, its importance generally and for Cascale

5 minutes Its importance for About You and their Fashion Leap for Climate project

7 minutes Where is the mutual benefit of a project like Fashion Leap for Climate? 

8 minutes What are the challenges of pre-competitive collaboration, and how has Magnus managed them? 

9 minutes How does Magnues collaborate with manufacturers for About You’s private label? 

11 minutes Cascale’s collaboration with manufacturers.

13 minutes Magnus’ challenge of working with small manufacturers 

14 minutes Joyce and Magnus discuss Cascale’s Manufacturer Climate Action Programme - MCAP

 What do manufacturers think about the programme?

Discussion about science-based targets

20 minutes What challenges do manufacturers face in decarbonising?

21 minutes Particular issues with manufacturers sourcing renewable energy in South East Asia.

22 minutes Could manufacturers be focusing on energy efficiency as a first step? What about biomass?

24 minutes Magnus discusses what About You is doing to become more energy efficient and source more renewable energy. They are setting examples as a form of social signalling.

27 minutes Magnus and Joyce leave us with inspiring end messages! 

30 minutes End