If many men these days act like boys—fighting, racking up sexual conquests, obsessing over childish pursuits—author Steven Arms says it might be because nobody ever told them, “You’re a man now.” Steven, on the other hand, did hear that from his father and male relatives at the “rite of passage weekend” they put together for him when he turned 13. Now, through his book Milestone to Manhood and the accompanying website and podcast, Steven gives other men tips on how they can have these bonding weekends with their own sons. This week Steven talks with Redeemed founder Paul Amos about rites of passage and how men of all generations can benefit from them—and how such rites of passage can also be valuable for daughters, as well as boys growing up in homes without fathers.

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