In this episode, my guest is Dr. Gerald Pollack, a renowned professor of bioengineering at the University of Washington and founding editor-in-chief of the journal Water. Dr. Pollack is widely recognized for his groundbreaking discoveries in cell biology and water science, particularly his identification of the “fourth phase” of water—also known as EZ (exclusion zone) water. His research offers a radical rethinking of how water functions in biological systems, challenging classical theories. 

Today we explore the foundations of Dr. Pollack’s theory, emphasizing the influential research of the late Gilbert Ling. We begin by examining key topics such as the existence of the cell membrane, evidence challenging ATP as the cell’s energy currency, and the disproofs of the membrane-pump theory. We also question conventional models of the atom and consider how Dr. Pollack’s findings connect to these paradigm shifts. Finally, we discuss the discoveries from Dr. Pollack’s lab and their far-reaching implications for biology and human health.

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Timestamps 

00:00:00 Introduction 

00:00:17 Welcome 

00:02:09 Sponsor: Biojit 

00:03:26 Dr. Gerald Pollack

00:03:47 Love for Science 

00:09:35 Questioning the Textbook and Our Understanding of Water 

00:15:07 Jerry’s Teaching Methods 

00:17:00 Herold Hillman: Does the Cell Membrane Exist?

00:22:13 Gilbert Ling 

00:23:26 Ling’s Theory of Water 

00:26:26 Writing Cells, Gels, and the Engines of Life 

00:27:27 The Association-Induction Hypothesis 

00:30:12 Independent Disproofs Against the Membrane-Pump Theory 

00:31:28 Podolsky & Morales: There is no “High Energy Phosphate Bond” in ATP

00:35:24 ATP as a Cardinal Absorbent 

00:36:12 Ling’s Stacked Dipole Theory and Why it is Not Accurate 

00:40:45 Gilbert Ling’s Inventions, MRI, etc. 

00:41:49 EZ Water Electrical Charge 

00:43:56 EZ Creating a Battery and its Implications for Cellular Energetics 

00:46:02 Infrared Light Powers the Battery 

00:51:12 Arturo Herrera, Human Photosynthesis 

00:54:51 Polywater 

00:57:47 EZ Structure vs. Bulk Water Structure 

01:03:34 Infrared Light’s Role in EZ Formation 

01:04:20 Hydrogen Bonds SImply a Conjecture 

01:05:38 Questioning the Structure of the Atom 

01:16:37 EZ Projection of a Meter Long (39 inch)

01:21:39 Deuterium and Deuterium Depleted Water 

01:23:20 Phase Transitions Within the Cell

01:27:15 Continuous Flow Occurs Through Hydrophilic Tubes Immersed in Water 

01:36:41 The Driver of Blood Circulation Beyond the Heart 

01:42:53 Implications for Human Health 

01:55:42 Kangen Water 

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