Today's episode is a repost of an Instagram live I did it just a couple of days ago with my dear friend Jamie Nicolini, owner of the sustainable supply company, The Collective in Des Moines, Iowa. Jamie and I met in April, 2019 when I spoke about reducing your environmental impact at the Des Moines Vegan Fest, which she helped organize. Then the day after the vegan fest, she took me out to breakfast to pick my brain and we ended up sitting there for like eight or nine hours talking about opening a zero waste store, our struggles with alcohol, our journey to veganism and so much more and we've been friends ever since. Then last summer she opened her own brick and mortar store in Des Moines and of course she stocks my Bestowed Essentials products there. We both get so many questions about what it's like running a zero waste business and how we got started. So that's why we did this Instagram live, which I'm crossposting to my Hippie Haven Podcasts so that it can reach more of you.