In this episode of Trying Not to Die, Jack Osbourne and Ryan Drexler sit down with the legendary Howie Mandel for one of the most honest and eye-opening conversations yet.

Howie opens up about living with OCD, anxiety, and intrusive thoughts, and what it's really like inside his mind. From debilitating panic attacks to years of hiding his diagnosis, he shares how a moment on radio changed everything and helped him realize he wasn't alone.

The conversation dives deep into mental health, fear, and the reality of coping with something that doesn't just "go away." Howie explains the difference between everyday habits and true OCD, and why understanding that distinction matters more than people think.

Along the way, the conversation touches on growing up without mental health awareness, coping with germophobia, raising kids with similar struggles, and the importance of removing the stigma around mental health. Howie offers a powerful perspective on fear. Not as something to avoid, but as the very force that drives people forward in life.

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