Response to hpr3568

Title PopKorn Episode 2: Programming, Mathematics, and Asymmetric Literacy

Artist BlacKernel

Album Hacker Public Radio

Comment https://hackerpublicradio.org Clean; in This episOde, blackeRnel Tries to help yoU undeRstand Enough about math and programming The license is CC-BY-SA

Date 2022

Track Number 3568

Genre Podcast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_joke

Mathematicians are also shown as averse to making hasty generalizations from a small amount of data, even if some form of generalization seems plausible:

An astronomer, a physicist and a mathematician are on a train in Scotland.

The astronomer looks out of the window, sees a black sheep standing in

a field, and remarks, "How odd. All the sheep in Scotland are black!" "No,

no, no!" says the physicist. "Only some Scottish sheep are black." The

mathematician rolls his eyes at his companions' muddled thinking and says,

"In Scotland, there is at least one sheep, at least one side of which

appears to be black from here some of the time."[Stewart, Ian (1995).

Concepts of Modern Mathematics. ISBN 9780486134956.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proof

A mathematical proof is an inferential argument for a mathematical

statement, showing that the stated assumptions logically guarantee the

conclusion.

Stated assumptions

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BlacKernel @[email protected] Mar 21, 2022, 19:01.

Saying you don't need to know math to do programming is like saying

you don't need to know how to read in order to write. Technically

true, but it makes it way easier.

Simplifying the statement

Knowing math makes programming way easier.

Rearrange and problem

There are no humans that ever existed or will ever exist that will not

find programming easier having a knowledge of maths.

I exist. I do not find programming easier despite my knowledge of maths.

Q.E.D.

other points

"Ability to think logically - which is what math is."

This assumes that math is the only field where the ability to think logically exists. Math is a subset of logical thinking and not the other way around. I can think of hundreds of occupations that require logical thinking that do not require any maths. It would be difficult to argue this point as it could be argued, as most people are exposed to counting no matter what level of literacy they may have access to. So let us refer to studies with crows that shows that they do think logically - despite any math knowledge.

Using the Aesop's Fable Paradigm to Investigate Causal Understanding of Water Displacement by New Caledonian Crows

Tool Manufacture in Crows

Programming is ...

The wikipeda entry has 19 other definitions for programming but OK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program

Asymmetric literacy

"Is an example where you can read or write in a specific language but not necessarily doing both."

Chinese written language can be understood by multiple spoken languages. However the nuance is greater if the writer and rea