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htmx: a new old way to build the web (JS Party #307)


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Carson Gross (creator of htmx) & Alex Russell (Mr. Web Platform 3000) join Amal for an EPIC discussion on web architectures, the evolution of rendering patterns & the advantages of hypermedia and htmx. We dive deep on why modern web app best practices are falling short & explore how htmx gives devs an HTML-first approach to use tech that’s over 20 years old.

Tune in to learn a new way to do something old, so you can simplify your code & use JavaScript when/where it’s uniquely able to shine ✨

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  • Featuring:

    • Carson Gross – GitHub, X
    • Alex Russell – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, X
    • Amal Hussein – GitHub, X

    Show Notes:

    • htmx site and docs
    • EPIC htmx Twitter
    • Hypermedia Wikipedia
    • Hypermedia Systems - A free digital book from Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Aksimsek
    • Hypermedia Reintroduction (from Hypermedia Systems book)
    • Infrequently - Alex Russell’s EPIC blog
    • The Market for Lemons
    • Performance Inequality Series from Alex Russell
    • Netflix Web Performance Case Study (refactoring the Netflix login to vanilla html, js and css)
    • Roy Fielding’s Dissertation on REST
    • REST APIs Must Be Hypertext-Driven
    • HATEOAS Wikipedia
    • Open Web Advocacy Group
    • Open UI Group
    • The Website vs Web App Dichotomy Doesn’t Exist
    • As We May Type
    • More Capable Form Controls
    • Fun Hacks for Faster Content
    • Google jsaction lib on Github
    • Intercooler.js (Carson’s precursor to htmx)
    • Previous Changelog interviews with Carson Gross on htmx:

      • Is htmx the way to Go? (Go Time #266)
      • Less JavaScript more htmx (JS Party #171)
      • The Market for Lemons - Diagram on Session & Interaction Depth vs Application Architectures (referenced in our podcast discussion)

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