Hybrid Hangout | Best Photography & Videography Podcast

In this first episode of Hybrid Hangout, I’m telling the full story behind the last year of my life and business and why I’m done moving in silence. I spent way too long overthinking, spiraling about being seen, and waiting to feel ready, and this episode is really about what changed and why messy action is the only way forward.

I talk about where I come from, what success actually looks like for me right now, and why I want this podcast to feel honest, helpful, and actually fun to listen to instead of performative or polished. You’ll hear the behind the scenes timeline of opening and closing the studio, rebranding, partnership changes, burnout, rebuilding trust with my audience, and creating Hybrid Hub.

There is also a real lesson in here. The biggest shift that has changed how I approach goals, consistency, and follow through is this: imposter syndrome asks “am I good enough?” but self confidence asks “what do people need?” If you take anything from this episode, I hope it’s that reframe.

We also get into a hot take on visibility and why most photographers are not stuck because they need more information. They are stuck because they are staying invisible behind preparation, planning, and perfectionism. Momentum only comes from doing.

MEDIA RECOMMENDATION:
I mentioned a video from Ali Abdaal that perfectly explains the mindset of treating life and business like experiments instead of permanent decisions.

WATCH IT NOW 

FLOWERS:
This episode’s flowers go to the incredibly talented Devin Larson of Backcountry Bohemians. Devin does beautiful work, but what really sets her apart is how deeply she cares about client experience and making people feel taken care of. I’m so grateful I got to build and create alongside her for a few years and you should absolutely go check out what she’s doing.

Instagram: @backcountrybohemians 

WANT TO BE FEATURED ON THE POD?
Send me a voice note on Instagram @hybridhangout and you might hear yourself in a future episode.

INTERESTED IN HYBRID HUB?
If you are a photographer ready to add video, scale your business, and have real accountability, DM me @hybridhangout to talk about whether Hybrid Hub is the right fit for you.

YOUR ACTION STEP:

Pick one thing you have been overthinking and do the smallest possible version of it this week. Post it, share it, say it out loud. Confidence comes from proof and proof only happens after you take action.

Thanks for hanging out with me for the first episode -- share this episode to your story and tag me @hybridhangout so I can say THANK YOU and DM all of your voice notes!! 

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

If you’re editing video and still scrambling for music, you’re wasting time. I use Artlist for every project. It’s high quality, searchable, and made for client work, with music and sound effects in one place. No licensing stress, no digging. It just makes editing faster. Check it out with my link: https://artlist.io/referral/e40b6464-8735-4bab-bb2e-6694f74d9175

If you’re offering photo and video and don’t have solid contracts, you’re taking a risk. I use contracts from The Legal Paige for everything. They’re built for photographers and videographers, with add-ons for Super 8, second shooters, travel, and more. Easy to customize and client-friendly. Use code SHAYNA10 for a discount: https://thelegalpaige.com?aff=578 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

Hybrid Hangout is a podcast for photographers who want to scale their business with hybrid photo and video. Hosted by working hybrid shooter Shayna Lloyd, the show covers hybrid shooting systems, editing workflows, packaging and pricing video, marketing strategies, and selling photo + video in a way that increases average booking value without doubling workload. Episodes include practical strategies, specific systems, business experiments, and honest conversations about money, burnout, confidence, and building a more sustainable photography business. If you’re a wedding, elopement, or lifestyle photographer interested in adding video, improving profitability, and building a smarter business model, Hybrid Hangout is for you.

Say on on Instagram @hybridhangout 

Get the free video upsell starter kit! 

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

Hybrid Hangout is a podcast for photographers who want to scale their business with hybrid photo and video. Hosted by working hybrid shooter Shayna Lloyd, the show covers hybrid shooting systems, editing workflows, packaging and pricing video, marketing strategies, and selling photo + video in a way that increases average booking value without doubling workload. Episodes include practical strategies, specific systems, business experiments, and honest conversations about money, burnout, confidence, and building a more sustainable photography business. If you’re a wedding, elopement, or lifestyle photographer interested in adding video, improving profitability, and building a smarter business model, Hybrid Hangout is for you.

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

This week’s episode is a big one. After two incredible years of building our education business, traveling, hosting retreats, and creating this community together, Devin is stepping away to focus on her family and her health after a really hard year personally.

We’ve always said the goal of business is to build a life you actually want — one that makes space for peace, family, and freedom — and this decision is part of that. I couldn’t be prouder of her for choosing what’s right, even when it isn’t easy.

We’re so damn proud of everything we built together — the events, the launches, the people we’ve met — and endlessly grateful for every single one of you who’s been part of this ride. Don’t worry: Devin’s not disappearing forever, and we’re already dreaming up ways to collaborate next year.

Moving forward, the business and podcast will be just me (Shay). I’m going to serve the hell out of you, and you can expect free events/education/coworking over the next couple of months, unfiltered education, and a whole new chapter of the show coming in the new year under a new brand.

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Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

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Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

Destini is a force. She’s a hair + makeup artist who absolutely crushed it at our Montana photo/video retreat, but she’s also building something way bigger—pioneering curly hair and braiding in an area where hardly anyone else is doing it, pushing for diversity in vendor teams (not just diverse models), and speaking honestly about what it feels like to be a Black artist in mostly white spaces.

This episode is equal parts heartfelt, hilarious, and unfiltered. Destini shares her hot takes and pet peeves about photographers (lmao, we had to), plus what it’s really like to carve out a niche that nobody else around you is filling.

If you care about diversity in the wedding + photo/video industry, if you’re a photographer who wants to work better with hair/makeup artists, or if you just want to laugh and hear from someone unapologetically real—this one’s for you.

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

If you’re editing video and still scrambling for music, you’re wasting time. I use Artlist for every project. It’s high quality, searchable, and made for client work, with music and sound effects in one place. No licensing stress, no digging. It just makes editing faster. Check it out with my link: https://artlist.io/referral/e40b6464-8735-4bab-bb2e-6694f74d9175

If you’re offering photo and video and don’t have solid contracts, you’re taking a risk. I use contracts from The Legal Paige for everything. They’re built for photographers and videographers, with add-ons for Super 8, second shooters, travel, and more. Easy to customize and client-friendly. Use code SHAYNA10 for a discount: https://thelegalpaige.com?aff=578 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

This episode of The Devin and Shay Show is as raw and unfiltered as it gets. We’re spilling every single detail about hosting our Montana photo + video retreat—the wins, the mistakes, the behind-the-scenes chaos, and everything we learned about planning, marketing, and executing an event like this.

We put an enormous amount of pressure on ourselves to make this the best retreat in the industry—not just another styled shoot or business weekend, but a true experience that delivered on every level. Did we pull it off? That’s what we’re talking about here, no filter.

It’s vulnerable, it’s juicy, and we don’t hold anything back. We’re so grateful for every photographer and videographer who trusted us enough to come, and for the team that helped bring it all together in Northwest Montana.

If you’ve ever thought about hosting your own retreat, or you’re just curious what it really takes behind the scenes, this one is for you.

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

If you’re editing video and still scrambling for music, you’re wasting time. I use Artlist for every project. It’s high quality, searchable, and made for client work, with music and sound effects in one place. No licensing stress, no digging. It just makes editing faster. Check it out with my link: https://artlist.io/referral/e40b6464-8735-4bab-bb2e-6694f74d9175

If you’re offering photo and video and don’t have solid contracts, you’re taking a risk. I use contracts from The Legal Paige for everything. They’re built for photographers and videographers, with add-ons for Super 8, second shooters, travel, and more. Easy to customize and client-friendly. Use code SHAYNA10 for a discount: https://thelegalpaige.com?aff=578 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Shay interviews Pinterest and SEO consultant Julia Bocchese about how photographers can use Pinterest to consistently generate inquiries. Julia shares why Pinterest should be treated like a search engine, the importance of keyword-rich pins and optimized boards, and how to use Pinterest Trends and Google Analytics for content planning. She also dives into website best practices to make sure Pinterest traffic actually converts, and when it makes sense to hire out Pinterest management. This episode is packed with actionable strategies for photographers who want leads without relying on Instagram.

SHOWNOTES: https://www.devinandshay.com/blog/why-pinterest-still-works-for-photographers-and-how-to-fix-yours

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

If you’re editing video and still scrambling for music, you’re wasting time. I use Artlist for every project. It’s high quality, searchable, and made for client work, with music and sound effects in one place. No licensing stress, no digging. It just makes editing faster. Check it out with my link: https://artlist.io/referral/e40b6464-8735-4bab-bb2e-6694f74d9175

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Devin and Shay interview photographer and educator Rachel Traxler about lead generation, funnels, and SEO for photographers. Rachel explains why visibility alone won’t book clients, the six pinned Instagram posts that attract different buyer types, and how to use vendor collaborations and blog posts to boost inquiries. She also shares her strategy of creating tangible wedding albums with QR codes for venues, helping couples connect with photographers during tours. This episode is packed with actionable steps to build a photography business that isn’t reliant on social media. 

SHOWNOTES: https://www.devinandshay.com/blog/the-instagram-strategy-photographers-are-missing-and-its-only-6-posts 

SAY HI ON INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/devin_and_shay 

FREE VIDEO UPSELL STARTER KIT: https://devinandshay.com/starter-kit 

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

 In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Shay interviews sales coach and strategist Megan Smyth about sales strategies every photographer and videographer needs to book more clients. Megan shares how to build a simple sales funnel using a lead magnet and email marketing, why sales calls should always end with a clear yes, no, or next step, and how to handle money objections with empathy instead of pressure. They dive into the difference between marketing and selling, how to stop relying on referrals, and the small changes that can double your conversion rates. If you’ve ever struggled with sales calls, ghosted inquiries, or wondered how email fits into your photography business, this conversation is packed with actionable strategies you can implement right away. 

SHOWNOTES: https://www.devinandshay.com/blog/photographers-stop-relying-on-referralsheres-how-to-actually-book-more-clients

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

If you’re editing video and still scrambling for music, you’re wasting time. I use Artlist for every project. It’s high quality, searchable, and made for client work, with music and sound effects in one place. No licensing stress, no digging. It just makes editing faster. Check it out with my link: https://artlist.io/referral/e40b6464-8735-4bab-bb2e-6694f74d9175

If you’re offering photo and video and don’t have solid contracts, you’re taking a risk. I use contracts from The Legal Paige for everything. They’re built for photographers and videographers, with add-ons for Super 8, second shooters, travel, and more. Easy to customize and client-friendly. Use code SHAYNA10 for a discount: https://thelegalpaige.com?aff=578 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram! 

In this episode of The Devin and Shay Show, Devin and Shay talk with astrologer and transformational coach Jaz about astrology, entrepreneurship, and navigating change. They reflect on an inside joke from the early days of their business—when Jaz predicted a two-year Pluto transit just as Shay said they needed two years to reach profitability—and how it all came full circle during their rebrand. Jaz shares how chart readings can guide timing and clarity, why heart-centered people make powerful leaders, and how astrology can support creative entrepreneurs through pivots and growth.

SHOWNOTES: https://www.devinandshay.com/blog/astrology-and-business-with-jaz

Join free coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking 

Join us for coworking every weekday in October: https://hybridhangout.com/coworking

If you’re editing video and still scrambling for music, you’re wasting time. I use Artlist for every project. It’s high quality, searchable, and made for client work, with music and sound effects in one place. No licensing stress, no digging. It just makes editing faster. Check it out with my link: https://artlist.io/referral/e40b6464-8735-4bab-bb2e-6694f74d9175

If you’re offering photo and video and don’t have solid contracts, you’re taking a risk. I use contracts from The Legal Paige for everything. They’re built for photographers and videographers, with add-ons for Super 8, second shooters, travel, and more. Easy to customize and client-friendly. Use code SHAYNA10 for a discount: https://thelegalpaige.com?aff=578 

Get the free video upsell starter kit: https://hybridhangout.com/starter-kit

Thanks for listening to Hybrid Hangout!! Don't forget to rate and review on your fave podcast platform -- it helps me grow, get amazing guests, and climb in the charts! DM me a screenshot of your review so I can say thanks :) Andddd say hi @hybridhangout on Instagram!