In S7E11 I sit down with Carl Hayden Smith and Pascal Michael to discuss technomagic, the PGM, UAP phenomena, out of body experiences, hyperhumanism and much more.

Carl:

https://www.themoc.org/

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Carl-Hayden-Smith

Pascal:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pascal-Michael

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