Shawna’s struggle with sin, “I am harmful to myself and others apart from the divine intervention of God.” Then, Perry shares that over the past 2 years he’s able to believe God loves him more deeply than ever because of suffering. Next, what do Sunday Sermons have to do with Perry getting sprayed by a skunk in 7th grade and Shawna earning candy bars?

Then, Perry says: “It’s the only thing that frees me from having to prove myself, from obsessing over my image, that frees me to admit my failures and sins.” Last if you’re feeling the excruciating pain of loss, Asia from Grand Rapids, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener knows that pain and has hope to share with you.

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