This week I spiraled out with television writer and lovely soul Katherine Kearns (Hacks, Yellowjackets.)  We talked regrets, binging bad TV in the early pandemic,  growing up Black with a cool, queer & very white Dad, the brutal honesty of children, and so much more. Plus, Katherine shares her seminal shame story about being a small child and inadvertently heisting a bag of delicious candy from the grocery store. 

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Audio Engineer/Editor: Sarah Gabrielli (check out her amazing podcast about the last lesbian bars in America @cruisingpod on Instagram and TikTok and listen here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cruising-a-lesbian-bar-road-trip/id1585850925

Original Music: Shadwick Wilde, Instagram and Twitter: @shadwickwilde

Cover Art: Cassidy Kulhanek, Instagram, Twitter and TikTok: @heavenlygrandpa

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