In Episode 3 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke take on one of the most controversial questions couples can ask:

Is marriage just a financial contract in disguise?

What begins as a discussion about the historical purpose of marriage quickly turns into a lively debate about love, legal benefits, money, parenting, gender roles, and what really keeps a marriage together over the long term.

Then Terrell makes a bold statement that changes the entire conversation:

"You can't be broke and married."

Is financial stability necessary for a successful marriage? Is love enough to sustain a relationship? Would people still get married if there were no tax advantages, inheritance rights, or legal protections? And should marriages operate more like successful businesses?

We also discuss:

• Whether marriage is primarily about love, commitment, or financial security • Arranged marriages and the historical purpose of marriage • Would you still get married if there were no legal benefits? • Remarrying after the death of a spouse • Whether successful marriages should function like successful businesses • Division of labor, emotional labor, and parenting responsibilities • Why couples disagree about chores and household expectations • The role finances play in marital conflict • Separate accounts, joint accounts, and allowance systems for married couples • If investment gains and lottery winnings should be shared in a marriage

This episode isn't about deciding who is right. It's about exploring the difficult conversations many couples avoid and discovering how our beliefs about money and relationships shape the way we love.

Can two broke people build a successful marriage?

Let us know in the comments.

👇 Join the conversation: Would you marry someone if there were no legal benefits attached to marriage? Do successful marriages operate more like families or businesses? Should married couples have separate spending accounts?

In Episode 2 of I Say All That To Say, Terrell and Brooke tackle a question that affects all of us: How far would you go to get ahead?

What starts as a discussion about the controversy surrounding relationship coach and media personality Dr. Cheyenne Bryant quickly evolves into a deeper conversation about ethics, credentials, business, capitalism, and the choices people make in pursuit of success.

Is bending the truth ever justified if it helps you achieve your goals?

Can you be both successful and ethical in a capitalist society?

And what lessons should we be teaching our children about ambition, integrity, and risk?

We also discuss:

The difference between coaching and licensed mental health professions

Why titles and credentials matter

Capitalism, wealth, and the pursuit of success

Whether public schools are creating workers or independent thinkers

Teaching our son about investing, entrepreneurship, and critical thinking

The importance of understanding risk and consequences

How parents can prepare children for a rapidly changing world

This episode is less about having all the answers and more about asking the difficult questions that many people avoid. How far would you go to get ahead? Let us know in the comments.

👇 Join the conversation: Would you ever bend the rules to achieve success? What lessons are you teaching your children about money, ethics, and ambition?

🎙️ Podcast: I Say All That To Say

👥 Hosts: Brooke & Terrell Harris

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In our pilot episode, we discuss how a job almost made us call it quits on our marriage, what tools we used to help us get back on track, and what we learned along the way. Watch as we get raw and have a real conversation about it.