I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

As a habitual loafer, I spend a fair bit of time thinking about how some songwriters can create music that can feel familiar yet unfamiliar and why I’m attracted to music that gives me both of those feelings. I also love finding music that feels very unfamiliar to me and I’m interested in why. 

As you might expect I’ve failed to come up with anything concrete, but I did read something which made me think: basically when you are younger, you tend to use music as an identity marker and engage with it to navigate social circles, find your tribe, stuff like that. And the theory goes that as you get older, your personality and social circles become more developed and  comfortable, so you tend to listen to music that’s more familiar. I’ve definitely experienced change in identity and social circles over the last, I dunno, 15 years probably, so if that theory holds true, it would explain why I’m listening to much more diverse stuff nowadays - Ugly Kid Joe over Ramones? Ok, let’s not go too far!

Another view, from neuroscientist Daniel Levitin, goes like this:

 “when we love a piece of music, it reminds us of other music we have heard, and it activates memory traces of emotional times in our lives.”

Today - 16th February 2024 - sees the release of Middle Kids’ third full LP called Faith Crisis Part I and it’s another beautiful evolution, showing another different side to the band, yet it’s still got that familiarity of journey, evocative melodies, empathy and classic bangers too.

This is a beautifully open and honest conversation with Hannah Joy about adaptability, reflections on quitting drinking, saying “yes” to things, finding the muse, work ethic mindset, formative influences that shape us, on stage versus off stage personas, her relationship with piano and guitar, consensus in songwriting,  curiosity…….

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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

As with most stuff, I was late to the Skinny Pelembe party and the way I got into his music was as random as it gets: I came across an Instagram post (see, Instagram does have its uses) of his about buying an Austin Allegro with his streaming royalties ( I think that was the gist of it). Now my old man - rest his soul - was an Austin aficionado back in the days of my formative years when he got hold of the Austin 1800, Maxi, Princess and Maestro (I crashed this beast of a machine soon after I passed my test and I think that kinda stopped his love affair with Austins). He never bought an Allegro – that was the domain of our across the road neighbours and buying the same mustard coloured one would have been a bit weird.

Enough of this nonsense: Skinny is writing and performing music that is really far reaching in its impact. It’s ingenious, it's inventive, unpredictable, open minded and most of all, it makes me curious, not least to put my own experience and interpretation on the music. It challenges me as I like art to do. I can be in the middle of soulful banger and weeper that explores what it means to grow up in a world that dehumanises, the next time I’m in a trippy, distorted underground village and everything else in between and around about. This is what it's all about. Brilliant stuff.

He’s just released, with Beth Orton, a cover of Leonard Cohen’s wonderful 1974 track Who By Fire to complement his two albums, two EP’s and singles. 

I'm so pleased that I got to talk with a true diamond. Enjoy!

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Nayana AB is an outstanding songwriter, musician and producer, who, for me, is taking influences from great songwriters of the past but making the music in very much her own vision. She’s using that history and those legacies positively to shape her own future and the future of others. I think this is exactly what legacy is about and how it’s intended to be used.

She recently won the Dr Martens Made Strong music in the community competition which landed her a show alongside the brilliant Ezra Collective. She’s played the Great Escape and We Out Here festivals, performed alongside Jake Bugg and Raye and is studying for a Masters in Global Black Studies, decolonisation and social justice as well as working at UD, the music organisation that incubates and nurtures black and culturally diverse artists. 

It's an honour to spend some time with her and listen to someone who has the talent and desire to shape the future of music.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

In the bands my guest has played with over the past, what 30 years maybe – like Minority, Brick, One Against Many and presently Black Mercy – I’m getting influences from some outstanding bands and I’m thinking Negative Approach, Whipping Boy, Poison Idea, Artificial Peace definitely a bit of Napalm Death thrown in there to grind things up a bit. Fuck, just saying those band names makes me want to do a back somersault…but at my age and all that, I’d better give that a miss.

In addition to his hardcore vocals, he’s also a skater, podcaster, caipoerista, comic book aficionado, husband and dad.

 I’m really interested how we get drawn to particular cultural scenes – music, comics, painting, design, poetry…and how that relates to which senses we favour – visual, aural, tactile – and which of our skillsets that appeals to.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

Situations and elements of duality, dualisms and paradoxes have started to become more evident in my life. I think I started to become more aware of this maybe 6/7 years ago when I started thinking and writing about the importance of mindset for surviving and functioning in this very complex and volatile world which, with a bit of gentle and not so gentle encouragement, led me to starting this little podcast. Exploring the existence of these situations, the reluctance to see anything other than a binary outcome, the impact of centuries of societal conditioning towards either right or wrong answers, the impact of ego and questioning what reality means…is there a reality after all?…all these kind of things tend to take up a fair bit of my brain space. 

No wonder I don’t have any friends.

Patrick Wagner has a long and important cultural history in shifting boundaries. His band Gewalt’s debut album from 2021, Paridies, is an astounding piece of work, especially the trance inducing title track and the slicing pummelling groove of Es Funktioniert. They shape their work sonically, visually and lyrically with big topics that challenge our own comfort zones, our own interpretations of reality and most importantly those feelings, those dualisms…there’s a sense of order yet chaos, fearless yet vulnerable

And Gewalt are back with a new physical single - Trans - backed with Monika In Scherben – both classic songs in their own right that highlight the story of Monika Donner – and they have announced a second album called Doppeldenk to follow in mid-2024.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

I think more and more these days about how we’ve sleep walked into allowing our world to become one that doesn’t serve us, one that does its best to prevent our ever-evolving identity to find its path, to do things on our own terms and away from being defined in a certain way by preconceptions or however our brains uses predictions of who others are and who we are. Maybe that’s just me getting older and grumpier. Probably true. But what's also true is that I have definitely experienced the wheels of reinvention in my own life. That feeling of “I’m not a number”, the need to find out who the fuck I am.  It took me a lot longer to get here, but what’s a few decades amongst friends.

Luca Buccellati rose to prominence as a composer, producer, collaborator, music partner, working with some extremely creative and successful artists, such as Lana del Rey, Arlo Parks, Big Piig, sophie meiers. 

Add a Grammy nomination and a Mercury prize for good measure. 

He has his own artist project that has been simmering, let’s say, called White China and he has now released another album which is called Hang Up The Lights. It’s a beautifully rich, diverse and personal collection of songs that builds on his masterful songwriting which you can hear on previous White China releases going back to 2018 but with this record, there is a very different lens and outlook on what’s important in life.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

I interviewed Andrew Butler from Hercules and Love Affair last year and he made a really great point about how the most exciting music is produced when one “scene” starts to fade but the next “big thing” hasn’t yet arrived – l think of it like when a new star is being born from all this gas and dust coming together -  before the “rules” of that genre are established (cos that’s what happens, right?) so it’s much more volatile, experimental and liberated. 

So, just delving into the past a little bit….in the late 70’s, it was time for a change…bands like Bush Tetras, The Pop Group, The Raincoats, Gang of Four, Pigbag, The Mekons and the band that Lesley fronted for a brief but hugely influential time were creating a fork in the road. The Au Pairs took their music in a direction that was as exciting as it was inventive, through a mighty rhythm section that made your hips shake (well, they made mine rattle even then) and the taut, jagged guitar and Lesley's distinctive vocals and lyrics. They looked great, they sounded great, they were singing about stuff that mattered - misogyny, racism, conformism, relationships - and were, to my mind at least, leaders in creating a wave of bands whose impact is being felt more than ever. Pioneers isn’t too strong a word in my opinion.

Anyway, after the Au Pairs disbanded, Lesley went on a long hiatus doing something completely different - she became an immigration lawyer, but she has picked up her guitar again and there is a lot of stuff going on which I think is hugely exciting.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

If this podcast were a musician, it's highly likely it would be called Trevor Dunn. 

Trevor is a hugely respected and valued composer, bassist, double bassist, collaborator, ultra-improviser and fantastic conversationalist, coming to prominence with the ever fluid and experimental Mr Bungle. He has also played with John Zorn, The Melvins, Fantômas, Tomahawk, his own Trio-Convulsant, plus many more collaborations.

Now, with Sally Gates and Greg Fox, he's releasing another fabulous milestone in his improvisational catalogue with the LP Deliriant Modifier on his own Riverworm Records.

This really is an excellent conversation with a man who's curiosity and innovation is endless. We're talking about the new record, the concepts of consciousness, alternate reality, improvisation, having an open mind and keeping an open mind, blasting away genres, mindfulness, curiosity, the pros and cons of boundaries and tons more.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

There’s so much about the work of J. Willgoose, Esq. of Public Service Broadcasting that really is everything that this podcast is about – resilience, curiosity, the importance of your physical environment, reinvention, collaborations, adaptability, trying things out, learning from the past – from successes or mistakes to what should have been or could still be – how to repurpose the past, how we shift ourselves in what is already a volatile and fast changing world, all with the aim of making the world a better place for us to live alongside each other, not at each other’s throats. 

A really fascinating chat with the modest and humble founder of a group who's motto is to teach the lessons of the past through the music of the future. 

And do feel free to laugh at my appalling attempt to compare Daventry and Winter Hill broadcasting masts…..stick to what you know.

https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com


I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™
- cover art by Giles Sibbald 
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste