(This episode was recorded before the tragic murder of ICU nurse Alex Pretti by ICE in Minneapolis today).

On Tuesday, ICE detained a 5 year old boy in Minneapolis. They grabbed him in the driveway of his home after he came home from pre-school, and used him as bait to capture his father. He has now been kidnapped by ICE, and is being held with his father inside an ICE facility in Texas, likely inside the notorious cages we’ve seen so many pictures of.

On this episode of The Siren Podcast, Jo is joined by Miles Taylor, founder of DEFIANCE.org. Miles told us some shocking details about Stephen Miller’s role in ICE’s kidnapping of children, and how their cruelty here is intentional:

“You what was Stephen Miller trying to do? And what I was told, and this is again, early days of the Trump administration, what I was told is there were plans at the White House to implement a deliberate policy of child separation at the border to rip a kid away from a parent as a means of deterrence, so that if you were thinking about coming to this country, you would think twice because the US government would rip your child from you. So it was intentional.”

Liam Ramos is just one of at least four children, all from the same school district, who have been detained this month by ICE, according to school officials.

The knee-jerk reaction of MAGA and the Trump regime was to call this five year old child an “illegal alien.” Yes, a five year old. According to Marc Prokosch, the family’s lawyer, “They came properly. They came legally, and are pursuing a legal pathway.”

But honestly, talking about their legal status isn’t important anymore. Because ICE doesn’t care who is and isn’t a U.S. citizen. Last Sunday, ICE broke down the door of an elderly Hmong immigrant and naturalized U.S. citizen with no criminal record. They brought him outside in the freezing cold with no clothes on, and proceeded to drive him around before realizing he was a U.S. citizen. All in front of his now traumatized grandson. We’ve also seen ICE tackling and pepper spraying journalists and pregnant mothers, all of whom are citizens.

And of course, ICE shot Renee Nicole Good in broad daylight, and then proceeded to deny her medical care for eight minutes while she died.

And now, an ICE whistleblower has leaked a secret memo written by ICE leadership, meant to be hidden from the public, detailing how ICE agents were verbally given the ability to violate the fourth amendment, saying agents can “forcibly enter into certain people’s homes without a judicial warrant.” And get this: Even DHS’s own training materials say this is directly unconstitutional.

But it’s not all bad news. On this episode, Miles tells us his bright, inspiring plans for the future, and how we can all collectively resist against this authoritarian regime. You’ll want to stick around to hear about Miles’ new org, and the massive event they have planned during Trump’s State of the Union.

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