This isn't therapy but this is part two of our conversation about perfectionism. In this episode, Jake and Simon talk about the type of perfectionism that keeps us from getting started. Have you ever put something off for fear that it won't be perfect? Have you ever felt so frozen and immobilized by the task ahead of you? Have you ever kept quiet because you won't say ~the perfect thing~? We dig into these questions and more in this week's episode.

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